Thoughts and Comments in General #3 **Spoilers** Bachelorette 4

[Grahamgroupie]

Originally Posted by cheekychook

Maybe I'm just too insecure a person, but if I were DeAnna the last person I would want my fiance to be friends with would be Graham...or any other guy I had had any sort of relationship with---and if I were Jason the last person I would want to hang out with would be the guy I once called
"a sure bet" in terms of my fiancee having a visible connection with him. But that's just me. Maybe I am just more catty than I would like to admit.

I don't think Graham has any intention of pursuing the friendship with Jason because he said that he knew it would be the last time he would ever see her as he drove off in the limo and also that Jason would most likely be the one she chose. He's in NY, Jay's in Seattle -- my guess is that there is over 3,000 miles (please don't mapquest me to prove me wrong!!!) to say that there won't be an issue.

[Google]

 

[Secret]

Originally Posted by n2shabbychic

I find it fascinating that even though you can hear the words come out of Grahams own mouth and watch his actions, add to that the fact he left at F4 (he's not even F2), that there are still people who refuse to believe he isn't in love with Deanna and she isn't in love with him. Is there anything that can convince you that they ARE telling the truth and they are not and were never truly in love? I really don't think everything is a "cover up" or edit. I actually feel kind of bad for Graham. I'm under the impression "the show" made much more out of their relationship than was actually there for the drama.

Also as much as I LOVE the sleuthing and analyzing, I think sometimes we go overboard with it because it's so fun. This isn't Lost it's just The Bachlorette. While there are tricks in editing and other things, a lot of times, things really ARE what they seem.

No, I fear he will join the list of previous versions of "the one that got away" that was the "true" love story and will be brought up in this thread and others long after the final episode has aired.

It's gotten to the point that conversations on this and other threads somehow always come back to Graham. He's not on the show any more, after Monday's MTA. It would be nice if we could move on, but I'm not holding my breath.

[Phyllie]

Originally Posted by StellaGeorge

Clear enough. Chapter ended. Turn the page. There's three left - can we retire the topic of F4 now?

There is a thread for the Final 3.

[Grahamgroupie]

Originally Posted by StellaGeorge

Clear enough. Chapter ended. Turn the page. There's three left - can we retire the topic of F4 now?

Why just limit it to the 3? We know for a fact that Jeremy is out. And from Screencaps showing Jesse in the limo, why not just talk about Jason? I think a thread was created for DeAnna's final 2, so, where are those of us that enjoy talking about our favorites, regardless of whether they are still in this thing supposed to go and talk?

[mommyluvsnoah]

Originally Posted by cheekychook

Maybe I'm just too insecure a person, but if I were DeAnna the last person I would want my fiance to be friends with would be Graham...or any other guy I had had any sort of relationship with---and if I were Jason the last person I would want to hang out with would be the guy I once called
"a sure bet" in terms of my fiancee having a visible connection with him. But that's just me. Maybe I am just more catty than I would like to admit.

This made me chuckle because my DH and I are friends with another couple and the woman is a former love for my DH. He thought at one point that they would marry. I was so nervous and anxious when DH and I first started dating and I met her. Turns out I adored her and I now love spending time with them. She and her husband are happily married as are DH and I and those feelings are long gone.

[Calypso]

I am certainly proud of DeAnna for overcoming the physical and letting Graham go. I think this is going to be a pivotal point in her life in finding the person who is right for her. I have no doubt Graham will do the same, I just think it'll take him a little longer. Whether DeAnna ends up in a happily ever after situation remains to be seen, but I do think she made the right decision in letting Graham go, and hopefully this was a life changing decision as well.

[goldie2]

Originally Posted by blue valentine

He contradicts himself because he goes on to say in the interview:



So was there talk about marriage or not? Seems like there was a lot of discussion about it.

I think the timeframe of a marriage proposal at the end was a difficult pressure for him ...the crux of this show is this proposal...extremely unrealistic...to date and get engaged in 6 weeks...
I think he knew what they would expect from him at the end...

the fact that she was left by Brad last season and this was her Second chance at the Fairy tale ending...maybe he could not give her that in such a time frame...

But the fact it was discussed shows thier deep commitment to one another and trying to explore a very serious subject..marriage...



Do two people discuss marriage that are not serious with one another?Absolutely NOT...


very,very honset and realistic...very well thought out and genuine..But I do not think he did not feel he could NEVER get there..just not in the time frames of this Tv show....


I really feel sad that people are questioning the genuine feelings that Dee and Graham had now...

Yes he left..but that does not mean that they did not both care deeply for one another and that unfortunately the shows format was not right for them...

[luvlady345]

Originally Posted by n2shabbychic

I find it fascinating that even though you can hear the words come out of Grahams own mouth and watch his actions, add to that the fact he left at F4 (he's not even F2), that there are still people who refuse to believe he isn't in love with Deanna and she isn't in love with him. Is there anything that can convince you that they ARE telling the truth and they are not and were never truly in love? I really don't think everything is a "cover up" or edit. I actually feel kind of bad for Graham. I'm under the impression "the show" made much more out of their relationship than was actually there for the drama.

Also as much as I LOVE the sleuthing and analyzing, I think sometimes we go overboard with it because it's so fun. This isn't Lost it's just The Bachlorette. While there are tricks in editing and other things, a lot of times, things really ARE what they seem.

Well the same could be say for hearing the words that came out of Deanna's own mouth about who she was falling in love with at the time of the F4 with only 3 dates left before she is supposedly blindly in love with one of the F3 men who were left......I don't have a horse in this race, but if I was one of the men left her words and action at the final 4 exit would give me pause, I just don't see the love for Jason, or any of the guys and think the one potential she had was with Graham or more like she thought she had.....I am just not seeing this as a love of the century.....

[StellaGeorge]

Originally Posted by Grahamgroupie

Why just limit it to the 3? We know for a fact that Jeremy is out. And from Screencaps showing Jesse in the limo, why not just talk about Jason? I think a thread was created for DeAnna's final 2, so, where are those of us that enjoy talking about our favorites, regardless of whether they are still in this thing supposed to go and talk?

Graham's thread.

[Grahamgroupie]

Originally Posted by StellaGeorge

Graham's thread.

Same could be said for Jason or Jesse or Jeremy fans too.

It's unfair to try and stop a conversation of any kind.