Thoughts and Comments in General #3 **Spoilers** Bachelorette 4

[northernviewer]

Originally Posted by Auntie Lyn

That is how I interpreted his "individual setting" comment. Not having been through one of these pressure cooker shows, I have no idea how much time they get together away from camera's, but from Graham's interviews, it appears that they had time enough to develop a friendship, and courtship atmosphere but not enough to promise I Do at the end.

that's funny how we all get different things out of what somebody says I took it to mean that he knew that she wanted to get married, (either she said it in group settings, it was in her biography that they may have been given or the other guys talked about what Deanna had said or what they knew about her from her show with Brad) but that she never actually spoke about it with him personally, whether the cameras were rolling or not.

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[MiGirl374]

Originally Posted by LadyTchr00

Deanna is simply, imo, not realistic in her life choices or expectations. I still remember her "I want 3 kids before I'm 30" statement. What about the man she married? What would he want? What about time together as a couple? Would that not be imortant? Deanna simply wants that dream too desperately to seriously consider what she's doing at this point.

That's how I see it too. I think the loss of her mother when DeAnna was so young has given her a sense of urgency, so she's trying desperately to have a family before it's "too late". It may not be the best way to go, but it seems to be the path she's wanting to take.

[northernviewer]

Originally Posted by glowgirl

Graham's interviews are very clear on the point that he was not, and does not believe he could, fall in love with Deanna. I'm not sure the full interview here. I'll go read and see and if not, add the rest.


One thing I wonder about is his comment about the edit of Jesse vs. the edit of Deanna. Where he says the Jesse edit appears close, but we are missing something in Deanna's edit.

Jesse comes across rough around the edges to me. The gas comments where telling. Deanna gave me the same impression on the Brad show with her "butt" comment to Brad, her behavior with the other bachelorettes, and the skinny dip knowing it was being filmed.

I wonder if that is what Graham is trying to say without saying it?

I understood the Jesse vs Deanna edit comment to be when they were with each other - not the Deanna edit in general. If Graham saw that Deanna was attracted to Jesse more than we are seeing, it just means that if it's missing from the edit, then for sure he isn't F1, otherwise we would have saw some of the things that G saw with them.

[northernviewer]

Originally Posted by chrisg

I'm not sure how being a female bartender automatically equates with being 'rough'. I live in NYC where quite a few bartenders are well educated actors who work nights so they can have their days free to audition. And saying it depends on the bar, but then automatically assuming it's a 'rough' bar doesn't quite logically fit.

It is also difficult to recognize a tall landmark from the ground that you're only used to seeing in photos from afar. Sometimes I take friends past the Empire State or Chrysler Buildings who aren't New Yorkers and say 'Do you know what building that is?' And you'd be surprised how many people don't recognize the Chrysler building from the ground. It isn't because they aren't well educated. Or sophisticated. It is because a tall structure looks different when you're standing at it's base than it does in does in aerial photos.

And I have no idea what a "yes madam" type of guy is. Perhaps you could elaborate?

Loved your reply chrisg being a bartender and not recognizing the Space Needle does not put her into the uneducated biker category

[Lifeisgood2]

Originally Posted by northernviewer

I understood the Jesse vs Deanna edit comment to be when they were with each other - not the Deanna edit in general. If Graham saw that Deanna was attracted to Jesse more than we are seeing, it just means that if it's missing from the edit, then for sure he isn't F1, otherwise we would have saw some of the things that G saw with them.

That is how I took that comment as well.

[13lahblah]

Originally Posted by northernviewer

Loved your reply chrisg being a bartender and not recognizing the Space Needle does not put her into the uneducated biker category

definitly not in the uneducated bike category

[diluvlabs]

Originally Posted by Popeyesgal

I for one never saw the sparks between Graham and De. I saw that she wanted him but never really felt that he was into her. I believe for her it was lust, and for him even that wasn't there. I never saw a connection with them other than the warmies on her part. Even on their one-on-one it was obvious that he just wasn't reciprocating what she was feeling.

ITA! I have been trying to say this since before Graham left, but it is certainly not a "popular" opinion around here! But, I think this is true. Deanna was in LUST - and he just wasn't into her. His body language spoke volumes!

[Piano-Girl]

Originally Posted by diluvlabs

ITA! I have been trying to say this since before Graham left, but it is certainly not a "popular" opinion around here! But, I think this is true. Deanna was in LUST - and he just wasn't into her. His body language spoke volumes!

ITA and I LOVE your avatar!!!

[Lynn7]

Originally Posted by cubsgirl

I would assume so! Guys are sometimes worse than girls about gossip. I can't imagine a few of them knowing without the rest finding out quickly. If it is all true, and Jason did know.....Well, we would have a long conversation....let's just put it that way.

I'd be having long discussion with him, too. Now, having said that, we have to remember that Jason had a secret (ie: Ty) and Ryan had a secret (ie: virgin) and Pinocchio had a secret (ie: girlfriend) and the guys seemed pretty respectful about letting those guys share their secrets when they were ready. Remember the guys knew about the girlfriend but they may not have been entirely clear as to whether she was a *girlfriend* or a friend who is a girl but the source made it sound like they *all* knew about girlfriend.

Originally Posted by atem

Lynn7 There is talk that DeAnna in those promo pics on the beach have her wearing the brand of sunglasses that Jesse was promoting?

Please, are you sure your source is right?

On a better note, DeAnna in the US Weekly magazine says that Jason is loving, caring and generuos...that he goes out of his way to make her happy.

Also, do you know what Jason gives DeAnna?

Yes, I'm very comfortable with this particular source. I don't, for one minute, believe that she would wear those sunglasses. I mean, I could be wrong, and maybe she's *over* it and felt fine wearing the sunglasses but my understanding is that she was really pi$$ed off when she found out.

I have no idea what Jason gave DeAnna as the LCD gift.

Originally Posted by talldede

I thought the exact same thing Estella. They've been building on their love story post show, and as many past contestants have said, the love will be stronger now, when we see them on the ATFR, then it was on the FRC night.

Apparently the ATFRC show is a closed set. In other words, there won't be an audience. Too many confidentality leaks.

Originally Posted by wehwee

Lynn7 -
I went away for a week and I'm really far behind, so I dunno if this has already gone through somewhere, but how do you know this with such certainty? Did Jeremy saying to her "he's not here for the right reasons" prompt her to do some sleuthing?

I promised my source that I would never reveal who they are but I don't doubt them at all. As far as I know Jeremy is *not* the one to tell her about the girlfriend. It is someone close to her that tells her. Whether they show it or not, I don't know, but, knowing Fleiss, he won't be able to resist getting that out.

[2observe]

Originally Posted by Spartangirl

There is more to all of these people than we get to see on TV. I do think that Deanna is not as sophisticated as Jeremy for sure and probably as Jason. She seems a bit more of an adrenaline junkie than either of them as well. It could still work for her with someone who is calmer. It would help to round her out a bit, but we don't always choose to do what is good for us and I question whether Deanna is interested in rounding herself out. She wants marriage and family but I'm not sure she wants calm. She seems to like fireworks and passion an awful lot. Jason seems like a great guy but I don't see fireworks or passion between him and Deanna. I see comfort and friendship. I think they have very different worldviews and she actually has more in common with Jesse than it first appears.

No matter what, I don't see a lasting relationship out of this season. No matter which guy she chooses for the final rose. With Jesse, I see conflict because of the girlfriend/endorsements that Deanna would have a very hard time getting past. And with Jason I see her at most trying it for a while but ultimately being unhappy because there isn't enough excitement for her there. We will have to watch and see but I think once Graham left that the show was essentially over and whatever happens next is just fulfilling the contract.

I'm really beginning to wonder if the bolded statement about DeAnna wanting marriage is really true. It occurred to me that maybe what DeAnna truly wants is to get the marriage proposal at the end, but not marriage. Imo, DeAnna may feel that getting the proposal will somehow "right" the "wrong" (rejection) she received during Brad's Season. JMO