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Old 06-26-2008, 09:33 PM   #41
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Wait..just two more I promise...

.Do you think if DeAnna had kept you for a few more weeks, you would have been able to open up more?Yeah I believe that the more time that she and I spent together the further along in the process of getting to know each other and the way we reacted to different circumstances and situations, of course the better you get to know someone the easier it is to open up. We were moving along in that direction, it just wasn't at the speed that we both agreed upon. But definitely the longer you get to know someone the natural evolution of a relationship - yes I believe I would have opened up and she would have opened up more with each passing day.

Can you explain to us what you went through when you got eliminated. At first it seemed like you weren't upset and the perhaps you were angry.

I'm going to be honest with you that it wasn't anger in anyway it was just the realization that the process itself was over. It was an unbelievable thing to go through and I got to do a lot really cool things and I got to make a lot of good friendships. I did have a very special connection with her and I think she had been very open about that, that she and I shared something that she didn't share with anyone else and I'm sure that's true for other people there. But leaving, it was just the realization that I knew that she would move on and she's hopefully engaged and hopefully in love with someone. I just don't think that it would ever be healthy for she and I to be friends, so I just knew it would probably be the end for us...speaking or having any kind of connection. That's just a rare thing to think about, like you go through something and you share some things with someone and then never talk to them again. It was just kind of a sad moment


More misspeak...he shared a very special connection with her that that she didn't share with anyone else...and I am sure it's true for other people there..

He thinks they had a special connection,unlike the others.....guessing if the others did too??weird comment...

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Old 06-26-2008, 09:34 PM   #42
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I think Graham was a wake up call for DeAnna. He was chemistry without substance, and so was Brad for that matter. Maybe now, DeAnna has come to the realization that she has been attracted by physical attributes rather than looking at the person as a whole.
She has said that she found herself attracted to someone she wouldn't have considered to be her type. We know she wasn't talking about Graham because she said that Graham was 100% her type. I hope Graham was a learning experience for DeAnna and that she can now move on to a person who will love her in return.

ITA - well said!
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:36 PM   #43
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He contradicts himself because he goes on to say in the interview:



So was there talk about marriage or not? Seems like there was a lot of discussion about it.
Nono, he says that the fact that she said his feelings weren't reciprocated was never discussed in their individual settings (answering the original question).
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Old 06-26-2008, 09:37 PM   #44
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I think Graham was a wake up call for DeAnna. He was chemistry without substance, and so was Brad for that matter. Maybe now, DeAnna has come to the realization that she has been attracted by physical attributes rather than looking at the person as a whole.
She has said that she found herself attracted to someone she wouldn't have considered to be her type. We know she wasn't talking about Graham because she said that Graham was 100% her type. I hope Graham was a learning experience for DeAnna and that she can now move on to a person who will love her in return.
I don't think ANYONE that was paying attention could say that Graham has no substance. He seems pretty deep to me, and there is no proof that he isn't open to love or commitment.
He wasn't ready to offer that to DeAnna especially since she talked constantly of marriage and finding a husband, but according to Graham never mentioned them specifically as it related to him.
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I find it fascinating that even though you can hear the words come out of Grahams own mouth and watch his actions, add to that the fact he left at F4 (he's not even F2), that there are still people who refuse to believe he isn't in love with Deanna and she isn't in love with him. Is there anything that can convince you that they ARE telling the truth and they are not and were never truly in love? I really don't think everything is a "cover up" or edit. I actually feel kind of bad for Graham. I'm under the impression "the show" made much more out of their relationship than was actually there for the drama.

Also as much as I LOVE the sleuthing and analyzing, I think sometimes we go overboard with it because it's so fun. This isn't Lost it's just The Bachlorette. While there are tricks in editing and other things, a lot of times, things really ARE what they seem.
Well said. He said so himself that even without the show and cameras he wouldn't be able to fall in love with her. How much more blunt does he need to get before people understand there isn't love there?
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I don't think ANYONE that was paying attention could say that Graham has no substance. He seems pretty deep to me, and there is no proof that he isn't open to love or commitment.
He wasn't ready to offer that to DeAnna especially since she talked constantly of marriage and finding a husband, but according to Graham never mentioned them specifically as it related to him.
I don't think the poster meant that Graham was no substance, but the "relationship" with Graham was all chemistry and no substance.
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I have to say that I am not shocked that he and Jason were good friends on the show. I will never forget when Jason came back from his alone time with De on the lounge chairs, and he said that Jesse was "that guy," and almost in a protective mode Graham says be right back, gets up and does the exact same thing to Jesse. It was almost like he was paying Jesse back. I hope that they are able to continue their friendship after the final rose. I thought it was sad that the rest of the guys had a reunion without Jesse and Jason. They all (except maybe a few) got along very well, and respected eachother.
Maybe I'm just too insecure a person, but if I were DeAnna the last person I would want my fiance to be friends with would be Graham...or any other guy I had had any sort of relationship with---and if I were Jason the last person I would want to hang out with would be the guy I once called
"a sure bet" in terms of my fiancee having a visible connection with him. But that's just me. Maybe I am just more catty than I would like to admit.
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I don't think the poster meant that Graham was no substance, but the "relationship" with Graham was all chemistry and no substance.

Well said!
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Well said. He said so himself that even without the show and cameras he wouldn't be able to fall in love with her. How much more blunt does he need to get before people understand there isn't love there?

Clear enough. Chapter ended. Turn the page. There's three left - can we retire the topic of F4 now?
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I Like Graham!!!

I am a total Jason fan and I truely like Graham. I think he realized that he couldn't give Dee what she wanted in the end and saw that other people (Jason his friend) were more vested in the show and were willing to give her what she wanted (proposal).

I do believe that he wanted out but to save face showed up for the rose ceremony. I watched the last show and I think his Mom said something to him about letting her go because Dee was so much vested in him.

He did the right thing. I really like him!!! He is gong to make some woman happy one day.

Go DeJay!!!
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