Thoughts and Comments in General #3 **Spoilers** Bachelorette 4

[Capegal]

Originally Posted by paborn123

It is the stem of the rose she is holding in her hand upside down to conceal it. I do believe that is for Ty, so he can have his rose. I don't believe his dad will be getting one.

Now THAT would be down right cruel

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[Lifeisgood2]

Originally Posted by Capegal

Now THAT would be down right cruel

Um yeah, that would be downright awful. And if she makes him get through his proposal and then rejects him I am going to go throw my tv out the window.

Also, has anyone come up with a new theory as to why the 2 roses from Brad's season are being shown? I know originally everyone thought 1 for Jason and 1 for Ty. But now what is the consensus?

[Darn Tootin]

I doubt very much that Ty is going to be there for the FRC. How would it be possible to keep a 4 year old from slipping up somehow and saying something? I have a five year old that tells everyone everything that goes on in our house!

[atem]

I had a bad feeling about that and yes, it is cruel.

I just want to know about Jason though, so it seems like forever until we get to hear from him.

[Prairiegirl]

Quick question. Everybody said that Jesse was on the show to do product endorsements. Zero gloves is one. But of course, those gloves don't show up until way later in the show. He wore crazy tennis shoes and a funky jacket the first day. And then there were those funny hats and white sun glasses. Everything else seemed really ordinary. Does anyone know where the shoes or the jackets or the hats come from? I thought I had found the hats but they don't show pictures on the website.

[Lifeisgood2]

Prairiegirl, it was all those funny t-shirts he was wearing.

[albean99]

Originally Posted by 4my2girls

I have to disagree. Jermey was my favorite at the start of the season, but when De and Jason went on their first 1 x 1, I thought... the other guys are in trouble. With Graham, I never really bought the story. I gues we all see things differently.

It was hard to ignore how devastated DeAnna was when she sent Graham home which is why most people I know away from the board think she always wanted him and is settling for second choice. I think she liked Jason and even cared for him but think the preview that talked about her worried about loving his family more than him was the truth.

[Larel]

Originally Posted by Lifeisgood2

Um yeah, that would be downright awful. And if she makes him get through his proposal and then rejects him I am going to go throw my tv out the window.
Also, has anyone come up with a new theory as to why the 2 roses from Brad's season are being shown? I know originally everyone thought 1 for Jason and 1 for Ty. But now what is the consensus?

Yeah I will join you on that one! how heartless to let him get down on bended knee & propose on national TV knowing you are letting him go!

I don't care what happened I would NEVER NEVER do that to any guy knowing I was going to send them away!
Even if ABC said that is the way it was going to happen, I would have to fight them on that & tell them no I can't let that happen!

[grneyedgirl]

Originally Posted by Capegal

Now THAT would be down right cruel

See this is the bad part about speculation. It can get people upset and worked up for nothing. It is speculation that DeAnna may give Jason a rose to give to Ty. But I think some people have already accepted that to be the truth and are already mad at her for doing something so cruel.
I think there are some things that should be a "wait and see" scenario.
This, IMO, is one of them.

[skylighter]

Originally Posted by albean99

But it hasn't been Jason all season. It was Jeremy and then Graham and that lasted until he left in the f4. I don't think the edit ever pointed to Jason. It was only that the sleuthers knew he and Jesse were f2. It's my belief that a lot of people decided then that no way could DeAnna choose Jesse and therefore Jason was f1. Maybe the simple explanation is the true one that DeAnna felt more for Jesse and picked him.

Jeremy and Graham started out with what appeared to be the F1/F2 edit, but Jason was there all along getting more and more attention as the season wore on. It's what Bloomers referred to as the "rising storyline." He had the longest intro piece in the premiere, had 1-on-1 time with De by the pool, and got lots of camera shots during that first rose ceremony. But he was still sort of in the background because DeAnna seemed to have such an instant reaction when she saw Jeremy and Graham. As the season progressed, his story kept building. In past seasons, this has led to the F1 spot.

Now, having said that, I've been trying to make sense of the edit and how it could lead to Jesse as F1. It occurred to me that having Jeremy and Graham in the mix allowed the producers to have two sets of an F1/F2. Jeremy and Graham were the "dummy" F1 and F2 while Jesse and Jason were the real F1 and F2. You basically had these two storylines running parallel until Graham's departure. When you compare the guys within each set to each other, you even see the usual F1/F2 dichotomy. With Jeremy and Graham, one guy showed her too much love while the other guy didn't show enough love. One guy was shown to be very open with his feelings and ready to commit. The other guy was portrayed as more reluctant to open up and not ready for any long-term commitment. With Jason and Jesse, you've got the calm, loving dad and the free-spirited wild child. Security and stability versus adventure and unpredictability. It's interesting to note that early in the season when Jason and Jason were thought to be the F2, more than a few people found it odd that the F3 and F4 seemed to be getting the kind of edit and attention that was usually reserved for the F1 and F2. So maybe this idea of a "double" F1/F2 is where the producers decided to go when they looked at the footage they had.