Thoughts and Comments in General #3 **Spoilers** Bachelorette 4

[northernviewer]

Originally Posted by procheervet

I don't think I would call it thumbing her nose at Brad, but I do feel she absolutely must at a minimum take on dating one of these guys in real life whether she wants to or not.

Well, that is the premise of the show - at least give out a FR... and whatever happens after that, oh well. No need to claim undying love or propose marriage but it is in effect a glorified dating game. The simple answer is "don't go on the show if you don't want to have to pick a F1 to at least date" otherwise the show is history. Yes, it is reality and it is there life BUT signing up to go on the show gives them a certain responsibility to the viewing public to give us a "happy ending" and if they break up the week later, (like Travis and Sarah) who cares? not me!

Another season of no F1 and the Bach is history - I'd be disappointed as I really enjoy the show.

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[anders332]

Originally Posted by procheervet

IMO if De chooses Jesse it is because she did not find what she was looking and he is her safe way out. No harm done. It can be edited that he was the hidden edit, he comes on strong in the end, and his fun factor makes him "the one". He is certainly an atypical F2, Jeremy was more suited to be in the final 2 as someone with strong feeling for Deanna. This season is just weird.

Totally - apparently Deanna knew the deal with Jesse and the endorsements (but not the g/f) so that tells me she knew who her 'safe' person was if she didn't find true love.

Jesse's edit has been all over the map - he's not clearly anything other than someone who shouldn't have made it past F6.

[Shannonm93]

Originally Posted by dodie430

Now....lol.... this does not mean that I believe that she would have chosen Jesse over Jason if not for the G/F controversy. However I do think there is a reason he is in the F2 - and I think that's because he stood a chance.



ETA: And no I haven't jumped ship....lol

Oh I absolutely agree with you about Jesse. I also think there is a reason that he is in the F2 (not just to make things easier on Jeremy as we originally thought although I do still think that plays a part in it), but that said, I'm absolutely adamant that I believe that there is no way De would choose Jesse over Jason (and hopefully I won't be having to eat crow in a little over a week ... ).

[aanjheni]

Originally Posted by Bloomers

Does your inside info indicate that she knew about the girlfriend? If so, was she ok with the girlfriend? Does your insider indicate that the decision she made was made regardless of the knowledge of endorsements and girlfriend?
To me that is a very important distinction in how she views Jesse.

I was told that everyone knew about the product placement - it was part of getting him on the show. Remember a long time ago they said they were having difficulties getting guys for De's season? He was one of the guys that needed enticement and was given the go-ahead for product placement (I have to add that the products needed to have small, insignificant logos - anything else would be blurred out) and the mention of a business/charity.

But this info did NOT include any details about the girlfriend. I only heard about that here on Fort.

I wasn't told anything about her decision at all, since it didn't come from someone who was privy to De, but more someone that knew about Jesse and his products.

In other words, I dunno. Sorry.

[northernviewer]

Originally Posted by atem

For me it's not that DeAnna taking Jason to the final 2 would harm Ty in any way...it's that keeping his father away when she saw how heartbroken he was when Jason left after the meeting Jason's family date that would be harming to Ty. We saw DeAnna let go of some guys that were wonderful like Fred and keep around guys like Twiley (no disrespect to Twiley). If she didn't have deep feelings or felt she was falling in love (which is mentioned in a VO that specifically states 'falling in love'), she wouldn't have kept Jason.

I agree , and myself and others have been saying that for quite awhile, Deanna would have sent Jason home by now if he wasn't a very serious contender as F1 - and the fact that she sent G and then Jeremy home is proof positive for me that Jason is F1

[anders332]

Originally Posted by boomer_lady

I'm not sorry for Jason. Apparently he was recruited and guaranteed a certain spot on the show. The fact that DeAnna kept him away from Ty all along, in spite of wanting Graham badly, didn't influence her decisions up to that point. Why would it make a difference to let him go now because of Ty? I don't think having Ty around proves that Jason is F1.

Really - that's the first I heard that - are you sure you're not thinking about JESSE?

[procheervet]

Originally Posted by drparoo

We need to remember that there is still a lot of editing to happen, so saying that the editing this season doesn't make sense for a fairy tale ending is a little premature in my opinion. I'm not saying it will end that way, but the editors/producers aren't dumb and, as someone said earlier today, they are here to tell a story. And maybe it is a "Prince charming comes and rescues heartbroken girl" story, but they're not truly looking for stark reality as they are a story to sell. And the fact is, people are suckers for that kind of love story. If they show a huge love story between Jason and De, EVEN ONLY AT THE VERY END, people in general are going to eat it up.

Now, not everyone is going to think it's plausible. But in our society, it has less to do with reality than perception, and the media can make anything look perfect. Let's face it, every single one of us has been influenced by how TPTB put things together, whether it's the sound bites from De or Graham that they put out or whatever. Not one person here really knows the true, real feelings of anyone on this show. And if we got to sit down and talk to these people in private without worry of contracts or publicity or whatever, we'd probably be shocked that what we thought the truth was, was different.

Now, about Jesse. I don't get him, either, but remember that Jesse got one of the first impression roses. SOMETHING made her do that, whether it was forcing her to think outside the box or what. SOMETHING made Jenni really like him. I've thought occasionally, though.....that perhaps both Jenni and Deanna were encouraged to promote him and that they suggested to Deanna that because of his reason to come on the show, that if she wanted to take someone along who would not get his heartbroken, then they'd be thrilled to have it be Jesse for the endorsements. Kind of a seat-filler, as someone to take along if she wanted to be able to let guys go that she didn't want to hurt. But that may be out in left field.

ITA with these comments, I (the "cynic") do not even find it remotely plausible that "true love" can be found under these circumstances. I believe you can meet someone that you can potentially have a relationship with outside of all of the hype and if you really want to make it work (Trista and Ryan) it is possible. But a ring on the finger at the end of a reality show is a bit of a stretch. I think we will see what the public is hoping to see, however, I believe it will be more fiction than fact.

[aanjheni]

Originally Posted by anders332

Totally - apparently Deanna knew the deal with Jesse and the endorsements (but not the g/f) so that tells me she knew who her 'safe' person was if she didn't find true love.

Jesse's edit has been all over the map - he's not clearly anything other than someone who shouldn't have made it past F6.

This is exactly my assumption about it too.

[boomer_lady]

Originally Posted by anders332

Really - that's the first I heard that - are you sure you're not thinking about JESSE?

It is my understanding that Jesse applied to be on the show (with motives apparently, IMO true for most guys) -- Jason was recruited by abc (I think it's also true for Graham) and according to people working on the show they are guaranteed a certain spot. How far a spot? I doubt F1.

[procheervet]

Originally Posted by northernviewer

Well, that is the premise of the show - at least give out a FR... and whatever happens after that, oh well. No need to claim undying love or propose marriage but it is in effect a glorified dating game. The simple answer is "don't go on the show if you don't want to have to pick a F1 to at least date" otherwise the show is history. Yes, it is reality and it is there life BUT signing up to go on the show gives them a certain responsibility to the viewing public to give us a "happy ending" and if they break up the week later, (like Travis and Sarah) who cares? not me!

Another season of no F1 and the Bach is history - I'd be disappointed as I really enjoy the show.

So are you saying you would rather see a fictional relationship that a real ending?