Thoughts and Comments in General #3 **Spoilers** Bachelorette 4

[bugsme3]

Originally Posted by amy4bama

I can't say I agree with this... I just can't see her finding out from Jeremy and then she just goes along with the hometown dates as if nothing happened? NOT LIKE HER...

I dont think Jeremy tells her anything at all. I thought I read that it was the host who told her about the girlfriend.

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[KashatheDiva]

Originally Posted by bugsme3

I dont think Jeremy tells her anything at all. I thought I read that it was the host who told her about the girlfriend.

This is my understanding, too.
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[Shannonm93]

Originally Posted by thethreej's

I would assume that they go on the weekends, since most people have to work. I dont think she meant literally that she sees him everyday, but was trying to make a point that she sees him alot. I dont think the actual gf had much of an impact on DeAnna's choice as F1, but had more of an impact of feeling hurt and deceived. I think she was pretty serious about finding love, and I am sure she was beyond angry that somebody came into the process with already having a gf, and that probably hurt her.

I agree thethreej's, but particularly with the part I have bolded to which I'd also like to add something. I don't believe for one second she would have ever chosen Jesse over Jason. All that she is looking for in a serious, permanent, committed relationship isn't there with Jesse and it is with Jason. I know the last thing De would want to do is to pull a B.ad, but if everything we are hearing about Jesse is true and I believe it to be exactly that (per Twilley ... 'the most hated man in the house', the endorsements, the ex-g/f, the break-up with her via text message, etc ...) then I have to believe that De would choose no one rather than lead Jason (and Ty) on. De said it herself on the DTA ... 'I don't want to break Jason's heart, let alone his son's heart' (which is what all of us Jason fans have been pretty much saying all along as to why there is no way in hades that this man is a default F1) and to me that says all we need to know and completely proves that there is absolutely no way that Jason is De's default F1.

[BuckeyeGal007]

Originally Posted by Shannonm93

I agree thethreej's, but particularly with the part I have bolded to which I'd also like to add something. I don't believe for one second she would have ever chosen Jesse over Jason. All that she is looking for in a serious, permanent, committed relationship isn't there with Jesse and it is with Jason. I know the last thing De would want to do is to pull a B.ad, but if everything we are hearing about Jesse is true and I believe it to be exactly that (per Twilley ... 'the most hated man in the house', the endorsements, the ex-g/f, the break-up with her via text message, etc ...) then I have to believe that De would choose no one rather than lead Jason (and Ty) on. De said it herself on the DTA ... 'I don't want to break Jason's heart, let alone his son's heart' (which is what all of us Jason fans have been pretty much saying all along as to why there is no way in hades that this man is a default F1) and to me that says all we need to know and completely proves that there is absolutely no way that Jason is De's default F1.

ITA! If she didn't want to risk breaking Jason's, let alone Ty's heart, she wouldn't have kept him past the HTD elimination...or at least the FD elimination.

[StanleyCupCanes]

Originally Posted by Shannonm93

I agree thethreej's, but particularly with the part I have bolded to which I'd also like to add something. I don't believe for one second she would have ever chosen Jesse over Jason. All that she is looking for in a serious, permanent, committed relationship isn't there with Jesse and it is with Jason. I know the last thing De would want to do is to pull a B.ad, but if everything we are hearing about Jesse is true and I believe it to be exactly that (per Twilley ... 'the most hated man in the house', the endorsements, the ex-g/f, the break-up with her via text message, etc ...) then I have to believe that De would choose no one rather than lead Jason (and Ty) on. De said it herself on the DTA ... 'I don't want to break Jason's heart, let alone his son's heart' (which is what all of us Jason fans have been pretty much saying all along as to why there is no way in hades that this man is a default F1) and to me that says all we need to know and completely proves that there is absolutely no way that Jason is De's default F1.

I absolutely agree. Given Ty's presence this season, I can see no other reason that he was shown to the degree that he has been other than Jason is F1. I think Ty had to be shown (perhaps not to the degree that they have shown him) because as Jason said "he is literally a part of me". It's a package deal if she picks him.

Emotion aside and from a purely pragmatic view, why on earth would DeAnna want to vilify herself in that manner by taking Jason to the final 2 or drop him immediately after the show as her default guy? She has seen firsthand the backlash (i.e. Brad) that would come her way. Not exactly the way to launch a new career as a daytime talk show host.

What surprises me the most is that Fleiss put Jason's VO in the season previews and first episode... the one about in sickness and in health.. be the prince charming that sweeps her off her feet...it is so clearly his voice. More so than SCs and sleuthing, this has what has always made me believe that he's the one she chooses. It melds perfectly with the fairytale ending.

[northernviewer]

Originally Posted by Shannonm93

I agree thethreej's, but particularly with the part I have bolded to which I'd also like to add something. I don't believe for one second she would have ever chosen Jesse over Jason. All that she is looking for in a serious, permanent, committed relationship isn't there with Jesse and it is with Jason. I know the last thing De would want to do is to pull a B.ad, but if everything we are hearing about Jesse is true and I believe it to be exactly that (per Twilley ... 'the most hated man in the house', the endorsements, the ex-g/f, the break-up with her via text message, etc ...) then I have to believe that De would choose no one rather than lead Jason (and Ty) on. De said it herself on the DTA ... 'I don't want to break Jason's heart, let alone his son's heart' (which is what all of us Jason fans have been pretty much saying all along as to why there is no way in hades that this man is a default F1) and to me that says all we need to know and completely proves that there is absolutely no way that Jason is De's default F1.

ITA - Jason is F1 because he's Deanna's 1st choice! How many times do we hear in the diaries of the departed, "I should have opened up more," "I should have told them how I really felt" or the Bach has said "I didn't know what they were really feeling" etc. The reason that they get let go is that the Bach has doubts about a lasting relationship with them - it's often a case of "woulda, shoulda, coulda" - and the Bach isn't saying that the ones they let go aren't great people, or that there is anything wrong with them - they just don't see a love match with them.

Deanna sees a possible "forever" with Jason and didn't see it with Jeremy or Graham, it doens't mean that they aren't wonderful men, we all know they are, it just means they weren't right for her. I don't get why some think she deserves being called and idiot or a fool or uneducated just because she didn't fall in love with a guy that they like better.

[shoepie]

Originally Posted by goldie2

How did you get on the show?Actually somebody was in my bar and asked me if I was interested in doing the show. Unfortunately for me at the time I was going through a family crisis and I was leaving town, so I was unable to go through the traditional process. When I got back from home they asked me if I would come in for an interview, even though I had missed the window of time they were looking. So I went in for an interview and they actually offered me the show and I turned it down and then was called back and decided, hey, God only knocks so many times so this is kind of a sign that maybe you should take a look at it, so I ended up doing it.

Kinda odd to say about this experience I think...knowing he left and it didn't work out...I find it weird to mention the shows experience that way...God knocks on your Door...

seems like he thought alot more about what happened than he is letting on in his interviews..

just a very weird comment...like he was mentioning fate or something...just weird...anyone else think so...

odd in a series of alot of oddities so far...

I take that to mean, at the time, he took their perserverance as a sign that he could not ignore. I do not see this as his sentimate now.

[northernviewer]

Originally Posted by StanleyCupCanes

I absolutely agree. Given Ty's presence this season, I can see no other reason that he was shown to the degree that he has been other than Jason is F1. I think Ty had to be shown (perhaps not to the degree that they have shown him) because as Jason said "he is literally a part of me". It's a package deal if she picks him. Emotion aside and from a purely pragmatic view, why on earth would DeAnna want to vilify herself in that manner by taking Jason to the final 2 or drop him immediately after the show as her default guy? She has seen firsthand the backlash (i.e. Brad) that would come her way. Not exactly the way to launch a new career as a daytime talk show host.

What surprises me the most is that Fleiss put Jason's VO in the season previews and first episode... the one about in sickness and in health.. be the prince charming that sweeps her off her feet...it is so clearly his voice. More so than SCs and sleuthing, this has what has always made me believe that he's the one she chooses. It melds perfectly with the fairytale ending.

I agree, and I think that we would have only seen very a minimal amount of clips of Ty if Jason wasn't F1. I think we introduced to Ty so that we could get the full picture of what transpired between them and to maybe also prepare him for tv appearances if they do choose to get married someday. I'm thinking Jason may have shown him clips of himself on tv, maybe when he was feeding the ducks and at the park (but not the whole show though, he is way to young for that!)

[Shannonm93]

Originally Posted by StanleyCupCanes

I absolutely agree. Given Ty's presence this season, I can see no other reason that he was shown to the degree that he has been other than Jason is F1. I think Ty had to be shown (perhaps not to the degree that they have shown him) because as Jason said "he is literally a part of me". It's a package deal if she picks him.

Emotion aside and from a purely pragmatic view, why on earth would DeAnna want to vilify herself in that manner by taking Jason to the final 2 or drop him immediately after the show as her default guy? She has seen firsthand the backlash (i.e. Brad) that would come her way. Not exactly the way to launch a new career as a daytime talk show host.

What surprises me the most is that Fleiss put Jason's VO in the season previews and first episode... the one about in sickness and in health.. be the prince charming that sweeps her off her feet...it is so clearly his voice. More so than SCs and sleuthing, this has what has always made me believe that he's the one she chooses. It melds perfectly with the fairytale ending.

Thanks StanleyCupCanes for pointing out the first bolded part! That is exactly the reason why Ty has been shown so much ... it is a package deal!

And with regards to the next bolded part, I thought the exact same thing. When I first heard that I thought 'that sounds like something only an F1 would say' and then when I realized it was Jason saying it, I thought whoo-hoo! Now I will admit that I did think that it was a little too obvious, but then I was quickly reassured by several posters that although Fleiss would never have done this a few seasons ago, he's much more likely to do it now (having to do with the new editors I would guess).

[Spartangirl]

I don't think Ty's amount of exposure on the show has any correlation to whether Deanna picks Jason or not. Ty is a great ratings booster and once Fleiss had Jason's permission to film him, Ty was going to be shown. He's cute and sweet and women love seeing him.

I also don't think that Deanna wouldn't send Jason home or that she wouldn't choose him without being in love because of Ty. I really don't think that Jason would be talking about his feelings for Deanna with Ty. I'm sure no matter what that Jason will do all he can to keep all the details about what happens from Ty. Even if Deanna does choose him and they really are in love and engaged, I don't think there is any way that Jason would bring Ty in and introduce her as his new stepmommy. Good parents take time to introduce new people into their child's life and don't just expect them to accept them after one meeting. So I don't think that not choosing Jason or breaking up with Jason would have any real effect on Ty and I'm sure that's how Jason feels or he would never have signed up for a show like this.

Deanna may choose Jason and they may even date for a while but I'm also sure that Jason will keep his son's best interest in mind throughout any dating that happens after the show.