Thoughts and Comments in General #3 **Spoilers** Bachelorette 4

[Zinnia]

Originally Posted by ilovemick

Part of Grahams interview ... I know ya'll are getting tired of us Graham fans, but just bear with us just a bit longer.

You know he's toeing the company line, don't you? Read the whole interview. Look for the contradictions. One time he speaks his mind, another he says what he's been told to.

Originally Posted by amsmom2njkz

Please oh Please let Twilley be wrong......Jesse over Jason

See above.

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[chrisg]

Originally Posted by ilovemick

Part of Grahams interview:

I think she and I suffered from a severe case of mis-communications. I don't question that her feelings were very strong for me and I also shared some very strong feelings for her. Where we were in the process may have been different because obviously as much as she wanted me to open up and say that I was falling in love or I was ready for marriage - I never heard those things directed at me in an individual settings, as far as being ready, I'm sure she is. I hope that she finds someone that she can be there with, but in regards to she and I we were definitely more on the same level than she knows
This is the paragraph and statement I do not understand. What does he mean by the statement I have bolded? I know ya'll are getting tired of us Graham fans, but just bear with us just a bit longer.

This is a direct quote from the Access Hollywood interview. The link is posted in the Graham non-spoiler threads. It doesn't get any clearer than this:

However, when I posed the question to Graham about whether or not if there were no cameras, no time frame, no television show could he fall in love with Deanna his answer said it all,

"No, I don’t think I could have fallen in love with her. I don’t think we were right for each other."

[coltinfan]

Originally Posted by Zinnia

Great comparison. Reminds me of the Lincoln-Kennedy parallels.

When did DeAnna say she fell for someone that wasn't her usual type?

i honest think i heard it day one of the whole deanna bachelorette,
grahm is what she always falls for, jason family man with a child
that very conforting and lets de let her armor comes off, she
doesnt have to show she is strong. i hope this make since, by
the weight i do luv both guys, i am so happy for dee, i could
have seen her honestly if i did not go to fort and jokers, i could
see her pick jason, or graham, and or jeremy be the final one.
i dont think i could have pick this quick over any of the
three men, i would say i would like to see what happen after
the show, and see actually if it would work out. but that me

[ilovemick]

Originally Posted by chrisg

This is a direct quote from the Access Hollywood interview. The link is posted in the Graham non-spoiler threads. It doesn't get any clearer than this:

However, when I posed the question to Graham about whether or not if there were no cameras, no time frame, no television show could he fall in love with Deanna his answer said it all,

"No, I don’t think I could have fallen in love with her. I don’t think we were right for each other."

I understand this "No, I don’t think I could have fallen in love with her. I don’t think we were right for each other" This is very clear to me what he says, however that is not what I asked. I asked about the bolded statement which I don't understand what he means by that.

[Spartangirl]

Not everyone believes in the "true love" story of Deanna and Jason as the Jason fans do. It isn't fair to expect those who don't believe it to not talk about why they think it isn't there to never mention the name of the person who is a big part of that reason just because he has been eliminated. It's not just to talk about Graham, it's to discuss what people think will or will not happen going on from now. You may not like it but Deanna had strong feelings for Graham at the point in time that the show is now showing. Are they still pining for each other? I certainly hope not! It's been months and that is time enough to move past a break up. But the FRC was not months after it. It was taped only 2 weeks after that. So, talk about Graham and Deanna's connection is not so people can blather on and on about a guy who was eliminated. It is integral to discussing what many of us see as the most likely future for the show.

Just because some people think that Jason and Deanna are destined to be soulmates, that is not all there is to say about it. We don't really want all of us to agree about it anyway do we? That would get boring.

[dodie430]

The only thing I can get out of it in its context, is a) the possibility that he dug her more than she thought he did for the short term at least or b) they both want to find love, marriage & children but they just weren't ripe to do it together.

Other than that, your guess is as good as mine

[chrisg]

Originally Posted by ilovemick

I understand this "No, I don’t think I could have fallen in love with her. I don’t think we were right for each other" This is very clear to me what he says, however that is not what I asked. I asked about the bolded statement which I don't understand what he means by that.

Sorry, Ilovemick. The other quote is a pretty vague statement and I have no idea what he means by that. I was just posting the other quote to show what he likely doesn't mean by it. Sorry.

[Shannonm93]

Originally Posted by seeker

During her 1:1 date with Jason she made a comment that in all her 26 years not one of the guys she had dated before ever asked her about her mother.........maybe bec' they WEREN'T THE RIGHT ONE. She trusted him enough to share that part of her life. The beginnings of more than just attraction she had felt for Jason that she had repeated several times in PIs and VOs, not to mention she COULDN'T THINK OF ANYONE ELSE she rather be with when Jason comforted her after she returned to mansion to spend two days with him.

With Graham in her own words it felt like she was a giddy schoolgirl. She was trying to force more than Graham was willing to reciprocate in that scenario with many guys around .....he rejected her request for kiss after track date, didn't want to be one of the pack.......... In the end did she give herself a course of self-therapy to deal with all that pent up emotions from her ex-bf and Brad "breaking her heart" when she laid it all out to Graham after RC, somethings she couldn't say to Brad after B11. She said in her gut she felt Graham was meant to be there. Sure, as a reminder of Brad it seems (since she brought him up with Graham frequently) for her to deal with the past and the hurt and pain of B11.

I agree Seeker! Thanks!

And you know what I thought of when she said she felt Graham was meant to be there? I agreed with that, but that he was meant to be there so that she could realize that this type was wrong for her and that she had to move past this type so that she could see much more clearly that the type of person she really needed was someone like Jason.

Originally Posted by dodie430

I respect your opinion and position, but using a past, extremely relevant experience in my view doesn't equate to "unresolved feelings". Knowing what you want, and in particular what you don't want [been there done that] is a sign of maturity. At least that's the way I see it. Especially when it hurts.

I'm tired of listening to Brad's name as well, so we're on the same page there. I just don't think her "feelings" are unresolved.

Ditto that, dodie! B.ad will be linked to De no matter what simply because of "The Bachelor" so his name is going to come up alot. It doesn't mean that her feelings for him are unresolved (I think the same can also be said of Graham as well). And remember that saying about "forgive and forget"? Well lot's of people may forgive, but I think most never really forget, hence why ex-boyfriends will sometimes get brought up at times when the subject rears its ugly head.

[suza19]

Originally Posted by seeker

What is interesting is that Deanna has said the same thing Trista said during B'ette 1. Charlie was her Graham and Ryan was her Jason. Makes one wonder if the PTB scripted some parts to show Deanna and Trista in similar light...........


Trista and Deanna both from families where parents were divorced. Both are upfront and outspoken........Trista a little more subtle IMO

Trista was rejected at FRC by Alex after he told her he was going to choose her at FRC and she left shocked and devastated

Deanna was rejected at FRC by Brad after he told her it was going to be a good day for FRC and she left shocked and devastated

Trista and Deanna - both seriously wanted to find Mr. Right and settle down

Trista made note to self to keep an eye on Ryan right out of the limo
Deanna right after meeting Jason wanted to get to know him better

Trista didn't want to leave the South (Miami) prefered warm weather but ended up moving to Vail,CO to the cold mountains with Ryan Sutter all for love

Deanna also said she prefered warm weather ....BUT will she move to rainly Seattle for love?

Trista wanted to get married and have a family right away
Deanna wants to have a family with 3 kids before she is 30

Charlie was 100% Trista's type (was her f2 was shocked he wasn't f1, ended up being at Trista and Ryan's wedding), she was shocked she fell in love with Ryan at FD in Seattle, he wrote her a poem
Graham was 100% Deanna type (was f4 and he knew it was coming). Deanna said she was surprised she fell in love with someone that wasn't her usual type

Trista's HTD was in CO, FD in Seattle (where she fell in love wtih Ryan)
DeAnna's HTD was in CO and Seattle (where she fell in love with Jason after seeing him with Ty - she said so in PIs - edited that way in epi 6)

Deanna to Jason - I know/heard Seattle is a place where people fall in love
Jason to Deanna - You said Seattle was a place where people fell in love, I'd like to find if that's so.........(summary)

Maybe, Seattle is a place where people do fall in love.:love struc.........ya think?

Fantastic post ... and that's why I believe they showed Trista in the DTA!

[aanjheni]

Originally Posted by atem

I cannot believe that no one would have even told DeAnna about what Jessee was up to! Doesn't that surprise anyone else?

I have reliable info from an insider that said that De did know about the endorsements (as did TPTB) but all were ok with it.