Thoughts and Comments in General #3 **Spoilers** Bachelorette 4

[Just Sayin]

Originally Posted by goldie2

I heard she LOOKED HAPPY for three months while she waited for the FRC to air with Brad and NO onE thought different...

seems to me if she is involved with a tv show...involving ultimately choosing somone she better look happy...if even just on the outside...

How many public interviews did she appear happy in prior to the FRC in Brad's season? I don't recall any.

Where was she "glowing" in the interviews between the actual FRC and the airing for the FRC?

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[Grahamgroupie]

Originally Posted by drparoo

Wait....I didn't say that as an extrovert you don't enjoy spending time alone. I applaud your "growth" and perhaps Graham is "ok with being alone and in the stillness and silence of his surroundings" All I said was that you can't tell by a picture showing him having a great time at a party that he isn't acting like an introvert.

Ok -- point taken. But in my experience with introverts, when at a party, they may participate, but they aren't the center of things, they are usually off to the side having a conversation with one, maybe 2 people watching others enjoying themselves. From what we saw in the pictures, he's not really demonstrating that. Again, that is just my take on it.

[Grahamgroupie]

Originally Posted by Just Sayin

How many public interviews did she appear happy in prior to the FRC in Brad's season? I don't recall any.

Where was she "glowing" in the interviews between the actual FRC and the airing for the FRC?

She has said that in the 3 months prior to the ATFR show that she was the greatest actress telling those around her "you'll just hafe to see" with a smile planted firmly on her face. It's on the net, I'm sure someone can look it up and find the article and copy it verbatum. She may not have always had a camera shoved in her face though.

[Capegal]

[quote=Alelady;3083451;]

Originally Posted by goldie2

Laugh all you want, but I think you will see that Deanna has indeed moved on (and so has Graham, based on the conference call). I'm not sure why people haven't seen this, but I don't think it's a simple as "I was in love with Graham, but I said goodbye, so now I'll move on to Jason". I believe that she was already falling in love with Jason, but she had strong feelings for Graham (dysfunctional and probably mostly physical), but feelings, nonetheless. These feelings confused her, and probably didn't allow her to open up completely to Jason.

I think she reached a turning point, emotionally, during the last episode, and realized once and for all, that Graham was not the right one for her. It hurt, because feelings were there, but she knew it was something she needed to do, and now she can move on.

Sometimes we have to go through these kinds of processes in life to get to where we want to be (I know I did, and it worked out beautifully).

Ab-so-bloody-lutely!!! How many tynes are in that fork ALELADY :d

What you posted is exactly what I - and many others - see as well. D has made a decision and will move forward. The cards were on the table - as the G interview said itself.

Thanx for that post

[Auntie Lyn]

Originally Posted by Auntie Lyn

Shannon, I am not saying that she and Graham have not moved on. I am not saying that I think they need to hook up. I am saying that DeAnna is in no way ready for a relationship until she resolves some issues of her own. Then if she wants to pursue a relationship with any of the guys she needs to explore it from a healthy side, not running away. I think that Jason deserves that. Jesse will get what is coming to him. I think that Graham deserves that. I think that Jeremy deserves that. But because of the connection that she admitted on camera to Graham's mother, and in their final scene together I think she needs to resolve those feelings somehow with Graham. Perhaps that is the key to her moving on.

I really am in tune with Graham, and I don't want to see him hurt. I thought that they had something going, but her fear of rejection could not allow her to allow Graham to move at his speed. I believe he Loves her but is afraid of all that that entails. And I believe that he cares enough that he would step aside so she could have the fairy tale ending she desperately wants.

Since I'm on a roll with this tonight, in regards to what Graham said in the interview today about him and DeAnna not seeing each other after this. Would be very difficult on both their parts I believe. They have that electricity, that look that she didn't have with any of the others, I believe he loves her, and she admitted to him that she was falling in love with him. Wouldn't do to bring that together if she is with someone else.

Can you explain to us what you went through when you got eliminated. At first it seemed like you weren't upset and then perhaps you were angry.
I'm going to be honest with you that it wasn't anger in anyway, it was just the realization that the process itself was over. It was an unbelievable thing to go through and I got to do a lot of really cool things and I got to make a lot of good friendships. I did have a very special connection with her and I think she had been very open about that, that she and I shared something that she didn't share with anyone else and I'm sure that's true for other people there. But leaving, it was just the realization that I knew that she would move on and she's hopefully engaged and hopefully in love with someone. I just don't think that it would ever be healthy for she and I to be friends, so I just knew it would probably be the end for us...speaking or having any kind of connection. That's just a rare thing to think about, like you go through something and you share some things with someone and then never talk to them again. It was just kind of a sad moment.


IMO, very close to grieving a loss.

[Shannonm93]

Originally Posted by Grahamgroupie

If at this age she couldn't be in love with Graham because she hasn't had enough experience to differentiate between love and infatuation, then she couldn't have possibly been in love with Brad and, furthermore, couldn't possibly had time to be in love with Jason.

Again, I think anything will be said to dissuade one fan's views on things in order to support other's views, but you can't have it both ways.

I'll say this and then leave it at that (hopefully) ... I disagree with your take on Jason. Why? Because he's not the same type as Brad & Graham. If he were the same then you'd have a very valid point. But he's not that same type and the fact that she can find herself attracted to someone who is not normally her type tells me that there is much more there than just physical attraction, which you have to have for a long-term, permanent relationship and is what her & Jason have.

And as far as dissuading one fan's views ... I'm not trying to change anyone's opinions, because I know that can't be done. I'm just saying what I believe to be true. Whether or not you (or anyone else) agrees with it or not is solely up to them and quite frankly, it doesn't make much of a difference to me.

[Just Sayin]

Originally Posted by Shannonm93

I'll say this and then leave it at that (hopefully) ... I disagree with your take on Jason. Why? Because he's not the same type as Brad & Graham. If he were the same then you'd have a very valid point. But he's not that same type and the fact that she can find herself attracted to someone who is not normally her type tells me that there is much more there than just physical attraction, which you have to have for a long-term, permanent relationship and is what her & Jason have.

And as far as dissuading one fan's views ... I'm not trying to change anyone's opinions, because I know that can't be done. I'm just saying what I believe to be true. Whether or not you (or anyone else) agrees with it or not is solely up to them and quite frankly, it doesn't make much of a difference to me.

I agree with you!!!

It was Jason that allowed her to see the difference between the two. I think that is obvious in how at peace she seems around Jason. "Infatuation" is not a requirement to fall in love. There is a difference between "infatuation" and "physical attraction". I think she is physically attracted to Jason. Add that to this unbelievable emotional connection that they share, and I have high hopes for their future!

[Shannonm93]

Originally Posted by Auntie Lyn

Shannon, I am not saying that she and Graham have not moved on. I am not saying that I think they need to hook up. I am saying that DeAnna is in no way ready for a relationship until she resolves some issues of her own. Then if she wants to pursue a relationship with any of the guys she needs to explore it from a healthy side, not running away. I think that Jason deserves that. Jesse will get what is coming to him. I think that Graham deserves that. I think that Jeremy deserves that. But because of the connection that she admitted on camera to Graham's mother, and in their final scene together I think she needs to resolve those feelings somehow with Graham. Perhaps that is the key to her moving on.

I really am in tune with Graham, and I don't want to see him hurt. I thought that they had something going, but her fear of rejection could not allow her to allow Graham to move at his speed. I believe he Loves her but is afraid of all that that entails. And I believe that he cares enough that he would step aside so she could have the fairy tale ending she desperately wants.

Trying to get to bed so I'll make this quick. I see your point Auntie Lyn, but with regards to the bolded part above, I think the only issues she had was with Graham and I think those have been resolved. That's all I'm going to say. I'm just going to have to agree to disagree with you and all of the other Graham fans on all of this, because its getting a little tiring. I say "tomatoes" all of you say "tomatows" and we just keep going back and forth. It's pointless. We're not going to agree (not that I thought we would), so let's just make this easier on all of us and just agree to disagree, okay? Thanks!

[Shannonm93]

Originally Posted by Just Sayin

I agree with you!!!

It was Jason that allowed her to see the difference between the two. I think that is obvious in how at peace she seems around Jason. "Infatuation" is not a requirement to fall in love. There is a difference between "infatuation" and "physical attraction". I think she is physically attracted to Jason. Add that to this unbelievable emotional connection that they share, and I have high hopes for their future!

I agree Just Sayin ... I too think she is physically attracted to Jason and the difference between what she has with Jason and what she had with Graham and B.ad was that was all that I think she had going on with Graham and B.ad and there is obviously so much more going on between her & Jason ... not just physical attraction (which of course is always a plus, but not enough to make a relationship work all on its own). Thanks!

[Grahamgroupie]

Originally Posted by Shannonm93

I'll say this and then leave it at that (hopefully) ... I disagree with your take on Jason. Why? Because he's not the same type as Brad & Graham. If he were the same then you'd have a very valid point. But he's not that same type and the fact that she can find herself attracted to someone who is not normally her type tells me that there is much more there than just physical attraction, which you have to have for a long-term, permanent relationship and is what her & Jason have.

And as far as dissuading one fan's views ... I'm not trying to change anyone's opinions, because I know that can't be done. I'm just saying what I believe to be true. Whether or not you (or anyone else) agrees with it or not is solely up to them and quite frankly, it doesn't make much of a difference to me.

See the thing is that it can't just be left at that because there is always someone who feels like they have to have the last word on a subject (not referring to you specifically but a general comment). We do disagree and what I've been posting is what I believe to be true too. It does appear that anyone who differs with Jason fans (in particular, Graham fans),they are debated and cannot be left to have their opinion -- it becomes a mission to counter any post.

I'm going to bed, so if there is any reply to this, it will not be answered... I'm sure many will be happy about that, but I certainly won't lose any sleep over it.

Goodnight, all!