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Old 06-26-2008, 11:56 PM   #121
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Apparently Twilley did an interview with ZHT 97.1 in Salt Lake City and he said that the most hated guy in the house was Jesse because Jesse told the guys from day one he was there for endorsement and face time but Jesse fell for Deanna. He said (paraphrasing) that DeAnna had just as much interest in Jesse as Graham. That must be the edit of DeAnna we are not seeing. I think that is why she had a hard time letting go of F2 and that was Jesse. (GF must have been the deal breaker). Wow!

If you want to hear it go to the station website. Click on morning zoo full show and then part 1. It is the last 11 minutes.
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:58 PM   #122
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Not sure what you mean by can't have it both ways.

But to answer your question, actually no I don't believe she was in love with Brad. De has already said that both Brad and Graham were her type, but all that means is that she was physically attracted to them and personally I never saw anything more than that with either one of them and you can be infatuated with someone like that, but you can't be in love with them (atleast I don't believe you can't since there is no other basis for the relationship and in order to be in love you have to have more of a basis than just physical attraction).

And once again, I think you & I just need to agree to disagree on this (not that I really expected anything differently). Thanks!
If at this age she couldn't be in love with Graham because she hasn't had enough experience to differentiate between love and infatuation, then she couldn't have possibly been in love with Brad and, furthermore, couldn't possibly had time to be in love with Jason.

Again, I think anything will be said to dissuade one fan's views on things in order to support other's views, but you can't have it both ways.
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:59 PM   #123
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But you're not De and it seems clear to me in the previews I've seen for the MTA and what I've heard about it from people that were there (as much as they can say anyways) that both De & Graham have moved on. And like I've said several times before, I'm sorry, but I don't believe she was in love with Graham. I think she may have thought it was love, but at that age and with very little experience of actually being in love it is difficult to differentiate between actual love and infatuation which is what I believe she felt for him.
Shannon, I am not saying that she and Graham have not moved on. I am not saying that I think they need to hook up. I am saying that DeAnna is in no way ready for a relationship until she resolves some issues of her own. Then if she wants to pursue a relationship with any of the guys she needs to explore it from a healthy side, not running away. I think that Jason deserves that. Jesse will get what is coming to him. I think that Graham deserves that. I think that Jeremy deserves that. But because of the connection that she admitted on camera to Graham's mother, and in their final scene together I think she needs to resolve those feelings somehow with Graham. Perhaps that is the key to her moving on.

I really am in tune with Graham, and I don't want to see him hurt. I thought that they had something going, but her fear of rejection could not allow her to allow Graham to move at his speed. I believe he Loves her but is afraid of all that that entails. And I believe that he cares enough that he would step aside so she could have the fairy tale ending she desperately wants.
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:59 PM   #124
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Passing Alelady the proverbial fork....
I just find it so interesting that people move that quickly with things and their feelings..

.like he's gone..done with that...

Don't let the door hit you on the way out...

I am laughing at this really...

But ...we'll see I guess...
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Old 06-27-2008, 12:01 AM   #125
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I just find it so interesting that people move that quickly with things and their feelings..

.like he's gone..done with that...

Don't let the door hit you on the way out...

I am laughing at this really...

But ...we'll see I guess...
His conference call helped me feel this way.
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Old 06-27-2008, 12:01 AM   #126
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Shannon, I am not saying that she and Graham have not moved on. I am not saying that I think they need to hook up. I am saying that DeAnna is in no way ready for a relationship until she resolves some issues of her own. Then if she wants to pursue a relationship with any of the guys she needs to explore it from a healthy side, not running away. I think that Jason deserves that. Jesse will get what is coming to him. I think that Graham deserves that. I think that Jeremy deserves that. But because of the connection that she admitted on camera to Graham's mother, and in their final scene together I think she needs to resolve those feelings somehow with Graham. Perhaps that is the key to her moving on.

I really am in tune with Graham, and I don't want to see him hurt. I thought that they had something going, but her fear of rejection could not allow her to allow Graham to move at his speed. I believe he Loves her but is afraid of all that that entails. And I believe that he cares enough that he would step aside so she could have the fairy tale ending she desperately wants.
very well said...Aunt Lyn... agree completely...
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well, I'm considered an extrovert, but I spend an hour every morning doing yoga and in complete peace with the Lord. I think twice before I speak and I usually think things through before I do them. I don't react to people, I look for a deeper meaning in everything that is said to me. Typical introverted behavior for an extreme extrovert, but I call it growth. Graham strikes me as the type of guy that is ok with being alone and in the stillness and silence of his surroundings. There are some of us who have gotten to that place, others never do.
Wait....I didn't say that as an extrovert you don't enjoy spending time alone. I applaud your "growth" and perhaps Graham is "ok with being alone and in the stillness and silence of his surroundings" All I said was that you can't tell by a picture showing him having a great time at a party that he isn't acting like an introvert.
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Apparently Twilley did an interview with ZHT 97.1 in Salt Lake City and he said that the most hated guy in the house was Jesse because Jesse told the guys from day one he was there for endorsement and face time but Jesse fell for Deanna. He said (paraphrasing) that DeAnna had just as much interest in Jesse as Graham. That must be the edit of DeAnna we are not seeing. I think that is why she had a hard time letting go of F2 and that was Jesse. (GF must have been the deal breaker). Wow!

If you want to hear it go to the station website. Click on morning zoo full show and then part 1. It is the last 11 minutes.
Interesting...what about the girlfriend stuff..
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I just find it so interesting that people move that quickly with things and their feelings..

.like he's gone..done with that...

Don't let the door hit you on the way out...

I am laughing at this really...

But ...we'll see I guess...
Laugh all you want, but I think you will see that Deanna has indeed moved on (and so has Graham, based on the conference call). I'm not sure why people haven't seen this, but I don't think it's a simple as "I was in love with Graham, but I said goodbye, so now I'll move on to Jason". I believe that she was already falling in love with Jason, but she had strong feelings for Graham (dysfunctional and probably mostly physical), but feelings, nonetheless. These feelings confused her, and probably didn't allow her to open up completely to Jason.

I think she reached a turning point, emotionally, during the last episode, and realized once and for all, that Graham was not the right one for her. It hurt, because feelings were there, but she knew it was something she needed to do, and now she can move on.

Sometimes we have to go through these kinds of processes in life to get to where we want to be (I know I did, and it worked out beautifully).
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Interesting...what about the girlfriend stuff..
It has been posted throughout the Jesse thread that Jesse had a girlfriend and only broke up with her during HTD. Dee found out.
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