Thoughts and Comments in General #3 **Spoilers** Bachelorette 4 - Page 108

suza19 · 06-30-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by smilingmomof3

Okay, here's my guess at a possible scenario. . . Jeremy tells De about Jesse on the overnight date and she is obviously very upset (crying scenes with Jeremy). She lets Jeremy go at F3, partially because she believes he is just jealous - a trait she hates- and she has strong feelings for Jesse. While at her HTD, sources confirm what Jeremy has told her and she feels terrible about not believing him. She is also extremely grateful to him for being the one man who told her the truth about Jesse. At this point, she decides to bring Jeremy back for the LCD as she has had it with Jesse. During the LC dates she realizes her heart is confused between Jason and Jeremy. She feels the show is fake and she wants to try dating both Jason and Jeremy in "the real world" as her trust has been shattered with the Jesse ordeal. Because Jeremy is let go at F3 originally, he is at the MTA show. However, the real conclusion of this show is yet to be decided. De has been dating both men and sorting through her feelings. She will accept a proposal and have an engagement party but many things are still "up in the air". That's just my guess today -- all pure speculation!!

Oh my that's alot to take in

, but there might be some truth to it! Whatever it is, I think we're in for some drama!

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Popeyesgal · 06-30-2008, 11:16 AM

They will have to show the final 2 on the LCD's. Just because we have some excellent sleuthers here, the general public probably doesn't know about the gf. Plus, they will want to keep up the suspense to the last moment....Who does she choose?

smilingmomof3 · 06-30-2008, 11:16 AM

Oh, one more thought also for what it's worth. . . I watched the HTD show this weekend w/ my DH. (He missed it last Monday). Anyway, he was 100% convinced Jeremy is her guy. My DH is very intuitive and always chooses the right person on TB so I tend to believe him. He is "unspoiled" by FORT as he thinks this is all silliness for girls with too much time on their hands

. So, just to throw a man's perspective out there. . . also, my DH reads BL very well, he's a very successful man in business understands all that stuff. So - take it for what it's worth ladies. We actually argued about it b/c I told him the sleuther info and he would have none of it - "she picks him - they have the passion" - that was his firm belief. . . makes me question the possiblity that Jesse was her F1, once De found out the truth, she brings Jeremy back and things go from there. . . (just my speculations for fun). . .

finalefan · 06-30-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by thethreej's

Somebody said Sean, and I am thinking perhaps that is correct. I could see Sean not liking this at all, and finds a way to tell her. So the stories about him coming back are true, just not in the sense everyone thought. I dont know just pulling out of a hat here lol.

I'd buy that just about any of the guys sent home previously -- all pretty good guys despite any edited focus on any flaws they might have -- could've decided that the upstanding thing to do would be to get word to Deanna (and/or producers) about the girlfriend.

However, if it's "someone close to her," I'm not sure that qualifies many of the guys. If there are really are no moles, can we really describe most of the guys who were sent home as "close to" Deanna?

anders332 · 06-30-2008, 11:17 AM

Is Ellen Degeneres the person who lets D know during her HTD???? does it have to be a bach???

Maybe ED did some researching on these guys after they left her show and she found out about Jesse's g/f???

The_Joopster · 06-30-2008, 11:17 AM

Hey all,

Just trying to catch up and I have been reading lots of awesome posts and I only have to say that FORT users are awesome!!! :-) I do however, have a couple of questions and thoughts that have come across my mind throughout the season, so I apologize if I sound like I am repeating any one else's or if I offend anyone because that is not my intention at all.

-did anyone else find it interesting that the one guy who came out of the limo with the upbeat ending music score from the last "Bachelor" season with Matt Grant was Graham and he actually left?
-as evident in previous seasons, the first impression rose winners normally get weeded out by now..so that is also a good indicator that Jesse wont be the F1
-From the "perfect" edit that Jeremy is getting, it seems to be creating hype for him to be the next Bachelor. Deanna herself had the similar edit in which she was the one that people saw the most obvious connection with (with the exception of Graham), they both have lost family members, was seen by many of the other contestants as the front runner and bad feeling ensued as a result, and if Jeremy leaves at F3 (I am saying *if* simply because he is my favorite on the show and I am trying to keep a small amount of hope alive) it would be emotional and viewers would really feel for his exit. Plus the fact that he probably would get a lot of women trying out if he did become the next Bachelor because he has a loyal fan base would help too. I would be sad to see him go in this season because I think they make a good couple (as good of one as you get from a 6 week reality show) but if it happens, I hope he is the next Bachelor (If I could, I would probably try out for his season lol)
-Does anyone have any idea on what her "big secret" is that she reveals on the MTA show? Apparently it is something that she has kept from the guys the whole season, and I see SCs of her covering her face...so I am not sure what happens with that one.
-What is the main gist of the whole Jesse/gf scenario? I hear that he broke up with her during filming, did not break up with her, Deanna finds out on her HT date, etc. and there is just so much going on that a catcher upper can easily get lost lol
-If ABC is having an engagment party, wouldnt they have filmed it at around the time or shortly after the MTA? I never heard of the MTA or the WTA shows having parties afterwards and it seems to me that it is just kinda "new" and now we get the new concept of the engagment party. I am fully aware that it would be kind of a slap to the face if ABC invited past contestants to the engagement party, but I don't put it past the producers to do it as a means of including them in for the sake of the ratings/fan base of each contestant.

If anyone can help out with this, I would really appreciate it!!! :-)

Cailg · 06-30-2008, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by smilingmomof3

Oh, one more thought also for what it's worth. . . I watched the HTD show this weekend w/ my DH. (He missed it last Monday). Anyway, he was 100% convinced Jeremy is her guy. My DH is very intuitive and always chooses the right person on TB so I tend to believe him. He is "unspoiled" by FORT as he thinks this is all silliness for girls with too much time on their hands

. So, just to throw a man's perspective out there. . . also, my DH reads BL very well, he's a very successful man in business understands all that stuff. So - take it for what it's worth ladies. We actually argued about it b/c I told him the sleuther info and he would have none of it - "she picks him - they have the passion" - that was his firm belief. . . makes me question the possiblity that Jesse was her F1, once De found out the truth, she brings Jeremy back and things go from there. . . (just my speculations for fun). . .

My hubby only watched the first episode, but still he didn't do too well. He picked Brian, the football coach.

boomer_lady · 06-30-2008, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rooting4love

Lynn said there is no mole that she knows of, so that is not the surprise. It is something sad but good (?????)

I don't think 3Js was implying Sean was a mole. It's more like his conscience (perhaps abc) made him spill the beans, of what he knew to DeAnna. Could explain the rumor of his extra trip back.

rooting4love · 06-30-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rooting4love

I forgot to mention in my post, we also talked about this possibility quite a bit but Lynn said there is no mole. Sorry - that was my best guess too!

I also forgot to mention that Lynn said it doesn't NECESSARILY happen during Jesse's family date, but that it does happen sometime on her HTD, so either before, during or after family dates but before LCD. So then I speculated that Jason told her, but Lynn said she didn't think he knew the extent of Jesse's situation because he would assume that all of the bachelors had pure intentions about the show like he did.

Popeyesgal · 06-30-2008, 11:22 AM

From everything that has been said, is it clear to anyone if the "secret" Deanna is keeping is one she has had since before the show began, or is it one that she has kept since the show ended. It would make a world of difference in what it might be.

06-30-2008, 11:16 AM	#1072
Popeyesgal FORT Fan Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: West Texas Posts: 237	Re: Thoughts and Comments in General #3 Spoilers Bachelorette 4 They will have to show the final 2 on the LCD's. Just because we have some excellent sleuthers here, the general public probably doesn't know about the gf. Plus, they will want to keep up the suspense to the last moment....Who does she choose?

06-30-2008, 11:16 AM	#1073
smilingmomof3 FORT Regular Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 110	Re: Thoughts and Comments in General #3 Spoilers Bachelorette 4 Oh, one more thought also for what it's worth. . . I watched the HTD show this weekend w/ my DH. (He missed it last Monday). Anyway, he was 100% convinced Jeremy is her guy. My DH is very intuitive and always chooses the right person on TB so I tend to believe him. He is "unspoiled" by FORT as he thinks this is all silliness for girls with too much time on their hands . So, just to throw a man's perspective out there. . . also, my DH reads BL very well, he's a very successful man in business understands all that stuff. So - take it for what it's worth ladies. We actually argued about it b/c I told him the sleuther info and he would have none of it - "she picks him - they have the passion" - that was his firm belief. . . makes me question the possiblity that Jesse was her F1, once De found out the truth, she brings Jeremy back and things go from there. . . (just my speculations for fun). . . __________________ *"It is not a lack of love, but a lack of friendship that makes unhappy marriages" - Nietzsche * "A woman who strives to be equal to a man is lacking in ambition"***

06-30-2008, 11:17 AM	#1075
anders332 FORT Fogey Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,670	Re: Thoughts and Comments in General #3 Spoilers Bachelorette 4 Is Ellen Degeneres the person who lets D know during her HTD???? does it have to be a bach??? Maybe ED did some researching on these guys after they left her show and she found out about Jesse's g/f??? __________________ To love and be loved is to feel the sun from both sides……

06-30-2008, 11:17 AM	#1076
The_Joopster FORT Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 67	Re: Thoughts and Comments in General #3 Spoilers Bachelorette 4 Hey all, Just trying to catch up and I have been reading lots of awesome posts and I only have to say that FORT users are awesome!!! :-) I do however, have a couple of questions and thoughts that have come across my mind throughout the season, so I apologize if I sound like I am repeating any one else's or if I offend anyone because that is not my intention at all. -did anyone else find it interesting that the one guy who came out of the limo with the upbeat ending music score from the last "Bachelor" season with Matt Grant was Graham and he actually left? -as evident in previous seasons, the first impression rose winners normally get weeded out by now..so that is also a good indicator that Jesse wont be the F1 -From the "perfect" edit that Jeremy is getting, it seems to be creating hype for him to be the next Bachelor. Deanna herself had the similar edit in which she was the one that people saw the most obvious connection with (with the exception of Graham), they both have lost family members, was seen by many of the other contestants as the front runner and bad feeling ensued as a result, and if Jeremy leaves at F3 (I am saying if simply because he is my favorite on the show and I am trying to keep a small amount of hope alive) it would be emotional and viewers would really feel for his exit. Plus the fact that he probably would get a lot of women trying out if he did become the next Bachelor because he has a loyal fan base would help too. I would be sad to see him go in this season because I think they make a good couple (as good of one as you get from a 6 week reality show) but if it happens, I hope he is the next Bachelor (If I could, I would probably try out for his season lol) -Does anyone have any idea on what her "big secret" is that she reveals on the MTA show? Apparently it is something that she has kept from the guys the whole season, and I see SCs of her covering her face...so I am not sure what happens with that one. -What is the main gist of the whole Jesse/gf scenario? I hear that he broke up with her during filming, did not break up with her, Deanna finds out on her HT date, etc. and there is just so much going on that a catcher upper can easily get lost lol -If ABC is having an engagment party, wouldnt they have filmed it at around the time or shortly after the MTA? I never heard of the MTA or the WTA shows having parties afterwards and it seems to me that it is just kinda "new" and now we get the new concept of the engagment party. I am fully aware that it would be kind of a slap to the face if ABC invited past contestants to the engagement party, but I don't put it past the producers to do it as a means of including them in for the sake of the ratings/fan base of each contestant. If anyone can help out with this, I would really appreciate it!!! :-)

06-30-2008, 11:22 AM	#1080
Popeyesgal FORT Fan Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: West Texas Posts: 237	Re: Thoughts and Comments in General #3 Spoilers Bachelorette 4 From everything that has been said, is it clear to anyone if the "secret" Deanna is keeping is one she has had since before the show began, or is it one that she has kept since the show ended. It would make a world of difference in what it might be.