DeAnna's final two

[Capegal]

Well, that's the difference between different viewers!

To my mind, both Jason and DeAnna have likely made plenty of ill-considered decisions. To me, the custodial father of a three-year-old could find dozens of better sources for new girlfriends than a tv show that tends to collect famewhores. And in my opinion DeAnna's simply deluded when she sees Brad and Graham as people who were actually madly in love with her but just "afraid to commit"; is totally wrong about how well she
"knows what she wants" and is relationship ready; and is completely misreading Jesse as actually being interested in her. Not only do I think she fails to understand others, I think she fails to understand herself, big time!

That's what it comes down to, I guess. If you figure these two are very wise in the ways of love and life, then you figure that whatever they do is the right thing. But if you're skeptical of their choices -- as I am -- then you're probably skeptical that their quick intuitions are necessarily the right ones.

(On the other hand, we don't actually know that they're going to commit to each other immediately, do we? Actually, isn't this whole conversation based on the idea that they might? Maybe they'll turn out to agree with me and end up taking it a little slower -- i.e., actually dating for a month or so while Jason's actually living in Seattle with Ty before they announce an engagement... in which case I'll have a much better opinion of their good sense!)

As always, the Bachelor/ette looks way different to different people.

The choices that Jason and D make are between them and have nothing to do with any of us - what is right for them will be decided by them - and it may be right for them to get married as soon as they choose to - nothing wrong with that. We all see the world differently and make decisions for ourselves differently - we just need to give them the benefit of the doubt that they make good choices and live happy lives.

[faithful2me]

Well, that's the difference between different viewers!

To my mind, both Jason and DeAnna have likely made plenty of ill-considered decisions. To me, the custodial father of a three-year-old could find dozens of better sources for new girlfriends than a tv show that tends to collect famewhores.

But, from my understanding, Jason did not apply for just any Bachelorette show. I thought that he had seen DeAnna on the Bachelor, and was attracted to her and interested in getting to know her better. While we don't always get the true picture on these reality shows, he did have somewhat of an idea as to what kind of woman she was, so he didn't go into this blindly.

I really can't see anything different here than if any of us who have liked(lusted) after Jeremy or Graham would want to sign up if given the opportunity if they were selected as the next Bachelor. We have all seen enough of them to get a relative sense of what kind of men they are, and even if we had children, I don't think we would fear either one of these men getting to know them.

[mommadeb]

Actually - Jason's ex IS in the picture - and does see Ty - and of course the legals have been worked out - they are legally divorced. And calling his ex a flake is uncalled for - no one on these boards knows her and really has no right to pass judgement on her. She chose a different path - per Jason - and leave it at that.

Very well said capegal!!!!!! There is no reason to bash people that you do not know.

[hannelorea]

Well, that's the difference between different viewers!

To my mind, both Jason and DeAnna have likely made plenty of ill-considered decisions. To me, the custodial father of a three-year-old could find dozens of better sources for new girlfriends than a tv show that tends to collect famewhores.

LOL do you have little children! Dozens of better sources for finding new girlfriends?? Most parents have no life once their children are born and if Jason is like most of us, he has no social life so it would be hard to find someone of quality.

[BachfanNY]

The choices that Jason and D make are between them and have nothing to do with any of us - what is right for them will be decided by them - and it may be right for them to get married as soon as they choose to - nothing wrong with that. We all see the world differently and make decisions for ourselves differently - we just need to give them the benefit of the doubt that they make good choices and live happy lives.

Exactly!

Deanna and Jason will do what's best for them. If they feel in their hearts they can get married in 3 months, good for them. If they want to wait 2 years, good for them too. The point is only they know and we should all be happy for them, especially because they are both mature people who have learned a lot in life and who are well aware of how important this is for Ty.

[goldie2]

Well, that's the difference between different viewers!

To my mind, both Jason and DeAnna have likely made plenty of ill-considered decisions. To me, the custodial father of a three-year-old could find dozens of better sources for new girlfriends than a tv show that tends to collect famewhores. And in my opinion DeAnna's simply deluded when she sees Brad and Graham as people who were actually madly in love with her but just "afraid to commit"; is totally wrong about how well she
"knows what she wants" and is relationship ready; and is completely misreading Jesse as actually being interested in her. Not only do I think she fails to understand others, I think she fails to understand herself, big time!

That's what it comes down to, I guess. If you figure these two are very wise in the ways of love and life, then you figure that whatever they do is the right thing. But if you're skeptical of their choices -- as I am -- then you're probably skeptical that their quick intuitions are necessarily the right ones.

(On the other hand, we don't actually know that they're going to commit to each other immediately, do we? Actually, isn't this whole conversation based on the idea that they might? Maybe they'll turn out to agree with me and end up taking it a little slower -- i.e., actually dating for a month or so while Jason's actually living in Seattle with Ty before they announce an engagement... in which case I'll have a much better opinion of their good sense!)

As always, the Bachelor/ette looks way different to different people.

Great points...

All that is being speculated now is that in fact .....pure speculation..
It is being talked about it as though it has already occurred...

Jason and DEE are in fact getting engaged..per the announcement...seems pretty official....right
There is no way they would throw that out there if it was actually the case this early..

Absolutely no drama or suspense left..if they did it for that reason..just give the happy ending away...right now..a week ahead of time...

whatever everyone wants to believe..in the end we will see what actually happens here..

I am waiting to see..with the crazy season we have had..

it is ANYTHING but PREDICTABLE.....

[hopelessroman]

Actually - Jason's ex IS in the picture - and does see Ty - and of course the legals have been worked out - they are legally divorced. And calling his ex a flake is uncalled for - no one on these boards knows her and really has no right to pass judgement on her. She chose a different path - per Jason - and leave it at that.

Thank you for those sentiments Capegal. I have been so dismayed at some of the posts just completely disregarding Ty's mother and portraying Jason as a single Dad and Deanna as an instant Mommy.

I was relieved to her Deanna herself on the last episode sticking in the comment that she would NEVER replace Ty's mother. At least she recognizes this, no matter what role she plays.

Ty's mother is NOT just an "egg bearer."

[sunny_peach]

Because there's no way they actually CAN be sure in such a short time. Marriages that make it after such a short time are defying the odds, and this reality show element makes that short time even more questionable. I see this as just another woman who will be in and out of Ty's short life. Such a shame.

Maybe she will, and then maybe she wont. I met my hubs and we were engaged very quickly. We were married about seven months after we met. We just celebrated our 16th anniversary and we are still happy as ever. It can happen, and if it does for these two then it does. These two are the only ones who know how they are feeling, we only know how we feel from what we are shown. I hope it does work out for them, and that they can be very happy.

[FanOfUnrealTV]

Maybe she will, and then maybe she wont. I met my hubs and we were engaged very quickly. We were married about seven months after we met. We just celebrated our 16th anniversary and we are still happy as ever. It can happen, and if it does for these two then it does. These two are the only ones who know how they are feeling, we only know how we feel from what we are shown. I hope it does work out for them, and that they can be very happy.

I am going to guess that you were not dating several other men right up until the evening before you and your husband became engaged, that you weren't dating while being filmed, and that there wasn't a young child involved? I think her situation is totally unique, and I would urge she and Jason (if this is fact) to exercise the most extreme restraint in rushing this relationship to the altar. I don't think a rushed engagement is the problem; I think a rushed engagement in their unique situation is problematic.

[seeker]

The choices that Jason and D make are between them and have nothing to do with any of us - what is right for them will be decided by them - and it may be right for them to get married as soon as they choose to - nothing wrong with that. We all see the world differently and make decisions for ourselves differently - we just need to give them the benefit of the doubt that they make good choices and live happy lives.

You make a good point. Life is all about choices. Timing of when, how, where, who is not within our control. There are marriages aplenty in this world where couples meet and marry within days and live happily thereafter, there are those who meet, date for years, stay engaged for years and then get married and yet get divorced within a few years (may be similar to Jason's). There are those who believe in long engagements and those who don't (Trista had a fairly long engagement). There are no hard and fast rules about it. Some people know it instantly when they meet someone. People marry for all kinds of reasons, the "smoking hot" factor that turns cold down the road is doomed for failure. Then there are those who marry for security, financial and sense of family, convenience, those who prefer a ready made family and all kinds of reasons.

As the saying goes "Maybe later" is just another term for "No" (the choice is just being postponed).

Ultimately what matters is really simple - how invested and committed is one to staying in the marriage. Just as much as one starts with the idea that they know themselves and therefore knows who they marry, events and experiences will bring change. Whether that strengthens their bond or tears them apart is a matter of "mutual" choice.