Behind the Edit **SPOILERS**

[pbmax]

Originally Posted by rooting4love

I think y'all are talking about two different clips here. The one they showed at the end of last week's ep, she is really upset and crying, reading the card and sitting with someone saying "I wanted you to be here in the end, but you couldn't be" (paraphrasing). This is where I think she is talking to the actual Bach she is upset with, due to the use of the word "you". Then the other clip y'all are mentioning is a newer clip from this week where she is talking much more calmly to someone and says (again paraphrasing) "I'm sending the one I thought I was falling in love with home". This is where I think she is talking to CH, since she discusses this person in the third person. It would make sense that she is more upset when she is talking directly to the Bach, as it is harder to express feelings to a person directly than when explaining a situation to an "outsider". Just wanted to try and clear up confusion caused because you are talking about two different clips.

BTW, I also think this will all look a lot different to us when we see the whole scene tonight. Remember Dee's look in the preview of Jay telling her about Ty???? It ended up not being her true reaction. It's all about drawing an audience!!!!

I'm talking about the clip where she says "I wanna be in love, what if that doesn't happen now" and the limo is driving off. The clip doesn't matter, it all was in the same night, and DeAnna was balling her eyes out, nose running for this guy. You all may say it was physical attraction or lust, but I say it was, no not was but is love. You don't do all of that for lust, but for love. JMO

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[procheervet]

Each and every one of the F4 has strong positives and strong negatives.....we have been given a healthy dose of each for all of them. Generally, you don't get too many negatives for your F1, some perhaps, but not ones that make the average viewer sit up and take notice. With these guys, there are strong negatives for each and every one of them. Whether or not this is a relationship that is going to stand up to the "real world" is yet to be seen. If you look objectively as each guy that is.

[procheervet]

Originally Posted by pbmax

I'm talking about the clip where she says "I wanna be in love, what if that doesn't happen now" and the limo is driving off. The clip doesn't matter, it all was in the same night, and DeAnna was balling her eyes out, nose running for this guy. You all may say it was physical attraction or lust, but I say it was, no not was but is love. You don't do all of that for lust, but for love. JMO

PBmax

[talldede]

Originally Posted by procheervet

Each and every one of the F4 has strong positives and strong negatives.....we have been given a healthy dose of each for all of them. Generally, you don't get too many negatives for your F1, some perhaps, but not ones that make the average viewer sit up and take notice. With these guys, there are strong negatives for each and every one of them. Whether or not this is a relationship that is going to stand up to the "real world" is yet to be seen. If you look objectively as each guy that is.

I don't see strong negatives for Jason. He has a son, that is more complicated, but it's not negative.

[drparoo]

Originally Posted by pbmax

I'm talking about the clip where she says "I wanna be in love, what if that doesn't happen now" and the limo is driving off. The clip doesn't matter, it all was in the same night, and DeAnna was balling her eyes out, nose running for this guy. You all may say it was physical attraction or lust, but I say it was, no not was but is love. You don't do all of that for lust, but for love. JMO

Or when what you fantasized about and hoped for didn't come true. Disappointment/loss is a very intense emotion. Whether love was or wasn't a part of that, I don't know. But I don't think it was just lust, either. JMO, too.

[procheervet]

Originally Posted by talldede

I don't see strong negatives for Jason. He has a son, that is more complicated, but it's not negative.

Jason has a child, and ex-wife who is active in that child's life, he lives 2700 miles away from the family that Deanna is so very close to and values so much, and he is of another faith. If you look at life's 5 biggest stressors, they are represented strongly there. This would cast doubt on the ability of this relationship to withstand the test of the real world.

[candimichele]

Originally Posted by procheervet

Jason has a child, and ex-wife who is active in that child's life, he lives 2700 miles away from the family that Deanna is so very close to and values so much, and he is of another faith. If you look at life's 5 biggest stressors, they are represented strongly there. This would cast doubt on the ability of this relationship to withstand the test of the real world.

Well if DeAnna is willing to deal with all of that and try then good for her!

[drparoo]

Originally Posted by procheervet

Jason has a child, and ex-wife who is active in that child's life, he lives 2700 miles away from the family that Deanna is so very close to and values so much, and he is of another faith. If you look at life's 5 biggest stressors, they are represented strongly there. This would cast doubt on the ability of this relationship to withstand the test of the real world.

Well, I can't argue with that. Interestingly, though, negative edits usually have to do with the person/personality specifically (temper, catty, etc.). When there are obstacles to be overcome, especially with the F1, usually they try to "fix" it with a very positive edit (Deanna being ok with the son, talking about Seattle being a place to fall in love, etc.) They've done that with Jason, never mentioning religion or ex-wives, etc.

I have a feeling, though, that these issues will show up at the HTD, as they usually do. But, certainly, no one is ever a perfect choice. There is ALWAYS a reason that someone shouldn't be picked, leaving some reasonable doubt as to the F1.

[procheervet]

Originally Posted by drparoo

Well, I can't argue with that. Interestingly, though, negative edits usually have to do with the person/personality specifically (temper, catty, etc.). When there are obstacles to be overcome, especially with the F1, usually they try to "fix" it with a very positive edit (Deanna being ok with the son, talking about Seattle being a place to fall in love, etc.) They've done that with Jason, never mentioning religion or ex-wives, etc.

I have a feeling, though, that these issues will show up at the HTD, as they usually do. But, certainly, no one is ever a perfect choice. There is ALWAYS a reason that someone shouldn't be picked, leaving some reasonable doubt as to the F1.

The only point I am trying to make is that this season, the negatives are strong for each and every one of the F4, well, actually, 3 of the 4, Jeremy hasn't really been shown in a negative light except for being a bit overly invested, but you have Graham who they have edited as unable to commit, Jason we've already been through, and Jesse, as, well, Jesse! Not to mention the girlfriend/publicity angle. It's as if they are telling us a story, and at the same time telling us why it won't work.

[talldede]

Originally Posted by procheervet

Jason has a child, and ex-wife who is active in that child's life, he lives 2700 miles away from the family that Deanna is so very close to and values so much, and he is of another faith. If you look at life's 5 biggest stressors, they are represented strongly there. This would cast doubt on the ability of this relationship to withstand the test of the real world.

-His relationship with his ex is amicable. (I don't know where I read this, but it's here somewhere) That makes things much easier.

-The distance is a reality when you enter into a show like this. Her likely F2 lives in Colorado and F3 in Texas.

-No one knows anything about Jason's faith and belief system, other than at his wedding, some Jewish traditions were included. So, I won't assume it's a negative, because we don't know.