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Old 06-17-2008, 06:33 PM   #501
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Re: Behind the Edit **SPOILERS**

WOW! There are so many amazing posts in here! I bow to you all!

I'm in the middle of addressing those posts, but first I wanted to back up something that Bloomers mentioned. Really, the key to analyzing the edit for a show such as this one or Survivor is to look at what’s being shown from a completely unbiased standpoint. Now, granted, that’s not always easy to do if one is emotionally invested in a certain character, but if you can, in a sense, separate yourself from all the players, the stories that are being told become more clear. Part of the analysis is taking into consideration all the external information as well, be it SC, firsthand accounts, rumors, whatever you choose to ingest.

FWIW, when analyzing Survivor, I was part of a small contingent of “purists” for lack of better word. When a season started, I went on a media blackout and stuck only to the board (which was spoiler free), the transcript, and SC. In truth, that was good training for edit analysis because it forces you to think outside the box. What you guys have here is a virtual Pandora’s Box of information from a variety of sources and some incredibly hard-sought spoilers that offer up a great launching point for edit analysis. And all of it should be taken into consideration. When analyzing the Bachelorette, my MO is the same as for Survivor: 1. Nothing is as it appears to be. 2. Every little thing no matter how significant or insignificant means something—one way or another. 3. All character arcs are being manipulated to tell a very specific story.

If one approaches the edit from an unbiased point of view, winners, losers, and everything in between start to emerge. And as Bloomers mentioned, that’s the fun in trying to sleuth out the show!

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Old 06-17-2008, 07:36 PM   #502
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A couple of thoughts on the Jason edit:

When they were showing them laying on the couch snuggling during the DTA, he said something like "that first kiss was perfect, but NOW when I look at her I see a sparkle". That's the not exact wording but I thought it was interesting that it was obviously a VO from a much later date and I think it's a big foreshadow that his feelings have in fact grown and that he is the F1.

Also interesting to me is the "straight-laced" comment by DeAnna. It plays right into the tortoise and the hare analogy that has come up during this season. He's not doing anything crazy but he just goes with the flow.
i totally agree but have you guys notice or maybe it just me, when jason
started this show he was always in suit jacket, clean shavin,but he has
always notice the little things, like deanna likes shirtless (and what girl
doesnt like that)kinda the don johnson scruffy hansome look as is graham,
now jason is going shirtless,backward cap,jeans no jacket.scruffy, good looking when he first started,but jason is even hotter if that is possible)i bsolutely think that deanna picks jason as the final guy.
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Old 06-17-2008, 07:42 PM   #503
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In the present edit - we are being shown that D has feelings for Graham - but we forget that we have also been shown that she has feelings for a couple of others as well - real feelings - tho different with each of the three - by her own words at the DTA. I have no doubt that she may have wanted to explore more with Graham - but with her quest at hand - and the way the show goes - she really had no choice but to let Graham leave - wether on his own or by her hand. That leaves room for the real F1 to be explored further by D - and I do think the edit shows that the Jeremy connection - is waning.
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Old 06-17-2008, 08:25 PM   #504
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Okay, I'm out of touch here cuz I have been out of town a few days and I know we are past last week's episode, but I am curious as to why Robert's and Fred's luggage was at the outhouse when they were staying at the mansion. Ideas anyone?????

Also, I want to say, I really still like Jesse and Graham (not for DeAnna, but for myself), and I know they are not everyone's thing, but then I have always had the BAD BOY syndrome, which is why I don't even date any more, because I am a complete retard magnet!!!
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Old 06-17-2008, 08:30 PM   #505
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Okay, I'm out of touch here cuz I have been out of town a few days and I know we are past last week's episode, but I am curious as to why Robert's and Fred's luggage was at the outhouse when they were staying at the mansion. Ideas anyone?????

I don't think it was. We hear Jason calling the guys up to the mansion to check out the luggage.

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Old 06-17-2008, 08:38 PM   #506
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Okay, I'm out of touch here cuz I have been out of town a few days and I know we are past last week's episode, but I am curious as to why Robert's and Fred's luggage was at the outhouse when they were staying at the mansion. Ideas anyone?????
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I don't think it was. We hear Jason calling the guys up to the mansion to check out the luggage.
Ahhh, that would explain, and I tip my hat to you. I just don't catch this stuff as quick as many of you all do!
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Old 06-17-2008, 08:53 PM   #507
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Several things stood out to me last night...(paraphrasing)

1. De said something like "While he was cooling down, three men jumped ahead of him.
2. After Jason said something about her and Graham's connection, Twilley said, "But they have issues."

Could these be foreshadowing and giving heads up so the veiwing public has warning that Graham is leaving?
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Old 06-17-2008, 08:54 PM   #508
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Don't think the first comment was about Graham, it occured shortly after Sean talked about being slow out of the gate, etc. and I think she actually said "playing it cool"
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I am so emotionally involved in this show,,first time post,,didn't even get my whole user name typed in,,should be hopeless romantic. I LOVE reading all of this,hats off to PiPer and Bloomers,,,also love Lynns BLF thread. I am a student,OLD, of watching people and listening just to see if body language and what they are saying match up. First of all,Jesse doesn't even come close and Deanna is too smart not to catch this. The other thing ,did anyone notice that Jason got the rose closest to Deanna last night. Jeremy got the second rose in,,and then Jason actually got the first rose on the plate. I found it odd that she wouldn't have just reached down and started from the closest,,maybe edited that way?
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Old 06-17-2008, 09:12 PM   #510
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Several things stood out to me last night...(paraphrasing)

1. De said something like "While he was cooling down, three men jumped ahead of him.
2. After Jason said something about her and Graham's connection, Twilley said, "But they have issues."

Could these be foreshadowing and giving heads up so the veiwing public has warning that Graham is leaving?
I would tend to believe she was talking about Graham and not Sean. For three people to have jumped ahead of him would mean he would have had to be out front at some point and I think we all know Sean has never been edited as being out front.
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