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Old 06-10-2008, 11:36 AM   #521
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Because he has a background in psych (as do I), it might make him more aware to people's body language and more intuitive to people's emotions. Not necessarily a bad or shady thing. I find myself people watching a lot and trying to read what people's body language and emotions tell me about them. If anything, it might just make Jason better able than the rest to pick up on how DeAnna is feeling at a particular moment. Per last night, he didn't push the 2-1 date subject with her and he gave her space even when sitting on the lounge outside until she felt comfortable enough to lay on his chest.
Jason is probably going to get quite a few negative comments and criticism across the boards on being able "to read" the non-verbal cues, assess the situation, and then act on it. Why? While this is definitely a strength for him, I believe that it might make many people feel uncomfortable, vulnerable and figuratively speaking naked for someone else to be able to "read" them; therefore, it is somewhat emotionally intimidating and threatening. People may identify with the characters that Jason is being able "to read", and because they vicariously "feel" the characters' supposed discomfort, the readers will transfer their own discomfort into dislke for Jason. That is my take anyway.
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:46 AM   #522
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Did anyone else notice Jason's comments at the racetrack? He was telling the other guys that he watches alot of nonverbal clues, body language. I was lol, that's what we do with our tapes of you, buddy! I was floored that he has noticed D's strong desire for Graham, and he also mentioned that Graham is not as into her as the other guys. The other guys listening didn't even flinch - it was like this was common knowledge! I believe that Jason has a calculated plan as to how he acts right now with Deanna. I don't think it's anything sinister, but I do believe that he is constantly thinking of the best way to react in every situation. And so far, it's exactly what she needs. He's so awesome at reading her, and giving her the best response. oops, sorry, not the jason thread! It almost sounds like Jason has a background in psych or something....
I believe Jason said she is giving Graham more time, because he is not at the same place as the others. I thought he meant, Graham does care for her but is struggling so hard with this process, where the others are not finding it as hard.
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:24 PM   #523
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I believe Jason said she is giving Graham more time, because he is not at the same place as the others. I thought he meant, Graham does care for her but is struggling so hard with this process, where the others are not finding it as hard.
This is how I also understood Jason's comments. Regarding Jason's observations, I find him to be mature with more life experiences than the other guys. His responsibilities to his son and his marriage/divorce give him a maturity that is far beyond the others. Not meant as a good/bad thing, just a fact. Nothing puts reality into life as having children! There is no deeper love or obligation (than family and children) and Jason's reaction to situations shows to me that he knows where his responsibilities lie.
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I believe Jason said she is giving Graham more time, because he is not at the same place as the others. I thought he meant, Graham does care for her but is struggling so hard with this process, where the others are not finding it as hard.
You're right, that is exactly what he said. I can see that "Graham being in a different place" is not the same as "graham is not as into her". Thanks for calling me on the carpet!
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Jason is probably going to get quite a few negative comments and criticism across the boards on being able "to read" the non-verbal cues, assess the situation, and then act on it. Why? While this is definitely a strength for him, I believe that it might make many people feel uncomfortable, vulnerable and figuratively speaking naked for someone else to be able to "read" them; therefore, it is somewhat emotionally intimidating and threatening. People may identify with the characters that Jason is being able "to read", and because they vicariously "feel" the characters' supposed discomfort, the readers will transfer their own discomfort into dislke for Jason. That is my take anyway.
I agree, but at the same time, being intuitive to someone doesn't mean that the person knows exactly how someone is feeling and it's not like he's reading her thoughts and is inside her mind... Now that would be creepy!

I get what you are saying though. It doesn't bother me any but I think that's because I'm the same way with people as Jason is..
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I Feel so stupid. I hate it when people try to take advantage of the deaf.
Lynn? Are you ok?

I hope I didn't offend you in anyway. I just love reading your interpretations. I miss things that you pick up on. If I do catch something, I agree that you saw what I did. I do have a little problem in reading both Graham and Jesse. Graham seems soooo allusive in his BL that what he says does NOT match his BL. Jesse to me lacks much expression at all and I get a strange vibe from his date especially on the scene with supper. He seemed to be over stressing what he was trying to say but then at the times he really needed to make eye contact, he looked down and to the side, and then up to her to see her reaction.

I hope you continue to post Lynn. Sometimes when you describe how the BL looks, I understand where you get flustrated because what I see is so many mixtures of words and the words don't exist. I think some of us should write our own vocabulary of BL I tried to describe a scene in another thread and got finger tied trying to describe a body gesture. Anyway, have a great day!

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A note to Lynn - I know I haven't posted much, but I've been reading your posts for a long time and, like many others on this board, I really look forward to them. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that you pass on information with honesty and sincereity. Although I enjoy it when you seem to have "insider" information, that is NOT the reason I appreciate you so much. It's your body language insight that makes you so special to me.
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Guitar music when DeAnna gave Jason the paper naming the star after Ty.
and was there guitar music when Jason greeted her when she came home from the 2:1 and hugged her asking if she was okay.
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A note to Lynn - I know I haven't posted much, but I've been reading your posts for a long time and, like many others on this board, I really look forward to them. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that you pass on information with honesty and sincereity. Although I enjoy it when you seem to have "insider" information, that is NOT the reason I appreciate you so much. It's your body language insight that makes you so special to me.
Ditto for me,

Lynn I was so shocked to see you down about "insider" info - By gosh - who cares about that - We love reading about everything from your perspective as it broadens our world. Your posts are the first thing I look for when I come on here -
However, I can appreciate that you feel someone mislead you intentionally, just know that most of us here would love to get our hands on that person and straighten them out!
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:27 PM   #530
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Has anyone noticed that Jesse's eyes are flat - hardly much emotion showing at all? My muscles tightened (tension/protection) when they arrived at the theater and the praise of the overly romantic setting didn't match the two people involved. Neither one moved their chair closer to the other, and once again DeAnna seemed to be trying to pull something real from a guy. Frankly, if I hadn't been spoiled with screencaps, I would have been floored when she gave him the rose in the middle of dinner rather than at the end of the date. What was that about? Did anyone notice if she took a deep breath or had a resigned look or posture about her at that time?

Not being deaf, I gasped when I heard the blatant lie about cheating. I came out of my own defensive mode and got angry. From DeAnna's expression, did anyone think that she completely believed it? I imagine she wanted to believe it, but I can't remember her body/facial expression at the time...I'll need to re-watch.

Anyway - re: Jesse...flat vibe from both him and DeAnna. If I hadn't been spoiled I would see him going home next week.
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