Body, Lip and Facial Communication - Bachelorette 4 **SPOILERS** - Page 51

keg701 · 06-10-2008, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lynn7

Did any of the other deafies feel like Jesse was lying through his teeth? Just curious.

I'll come out of lurkdom to answer that one.

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StellaGeorge · 06-10-2008, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jonsmom98

while I observed him during that question...it seem to me that he look down and away...classic tell sign of not quite telling the truth.

Seems a planted question by TPTB because they know he isn't forthright. Nothing like 'reality' tv to capture him tell a lie on TV then expose the truth to get a cameo reaction out of him.

StellaGeorge · 06-10-2008, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by emusha

Thanks Lynn such great posts! very insightful indeed!! I agree 100% about Jesse lying, it seemed exactly like he was rehearsed tonite.

Lynn, is there any chance you might offer some more DeAnna + Graham insight about tonight's episode?

There was something about Graham that Jenni picked up on as well.... I think D has had high expectations for him - perhaps even thinking it would be a 'cake walk' in her earlier naivity. Personally - those last minute redemption speeches won't last long - - well, I hope our girl is brite enough not to take the bait.

SweetTexasGal · 06-10-2008, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by beader

Thanks Lynn--love your posts!

I do hear, though not very well anymore, but I think Jesse was lying out the wazoo--not only about cheating, but through most of what we heard. As I said on his thread, he sounded to me like he'd rehearsed the script in Salesmanship 203. I know a salesman who says, "Figure out what someone wants to hear and give it to them." That's what I felt like he was doing.

beader and welcome to the FORT. When I watched their interactions at the dining table his end just didn't flow. I too felt it was scripted and difficult for him. I think he had himself prepared before the date and it just didn't feel like he was giving spontaneous answers. It came across as rigid.

Please continue to post!

Michelle

sorry for the double post as I don't know how to quote multiple.

StellaGeorge · 06-10-2008, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by beader

Thanks Lynn--love your posts!

I do hear, though not very well anymore, but I think Jesse was lying out the wazoo--not only about cheating, but through most of what we heard. As I said on his thread, he sounded to me like he'd rehearsed the script in Salesmanship 203. I know a salesman who says, "Figure out what someone wants to hear and give it to them." That's what I felt like he was doing.

I agree - - and his table posture and mannerisms was not becoming of a gentleman being in the presence of lady. There is a time and place to be 'casual' - - and that date was not one of them. TPTB even gave him a suit as if to give him a clue to step up his game.

chaslom4 · 06-10-2008, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by StellaGeorge

I agree - - and his table posture and mannerisms was not becoming of a gentleman being in the presence of lady. There is a time and place to be 'casual' - - and that date was not one of them. TPTB even gave him a suit as if to give him a clue to step up his game.

remember this is the guy who had the whole farting conversation with her!

StellaGeorge · 06-10-2008, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by chaslom4

remember this is the guy who had the whole farting conversation with her!

Of course.... silly me! So why was I so surprised he didn't know how to use a fork!!

Lynn7 · 06-10-2008, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kelad9

I know you were asking Lynn the above question but Just gotta chime in here.. Yup I do believe he's lying straight through his teeth on that subject...

O.k I'm a jeremy fan but he kinda went down a notch tonight in some ways but in other ways it was soo great to see him be like an excited little kid in the PI's on the racing date and just being around DeAnna.. Like Lynn, I thought it was great that Jeremy and Jesse put forth the most effort for the BBQ... Found it a bit odd that Brian would not hug Jeremy and seemed to be ignoring him.... Maybe they left out the Brian and Jeremy hug on purpose with the edit???

I do think that Robert lied to DeAnna about the guys telling him not to go into that date with expectations.. and I'm glad that DeAnna was smart enough to send him home as he probably would have caused a lot more confrontations in the long run with him being on the emotional and I hate to say it Delusional roller coaster about his connection with DeAnna( maybe it's just the edit but I found Robert a little creepy tonight)...

Fred- Aawwww what a great guy.. just sad that DeAnna didnt' think he was the guy for her and I do hope he finds that special girl later down the road.

Twilley- I thought he was funny as heck tonight. Am glad he'll get a chance to show DeAnna his feelings though I think he'll be a little too late..

Sean- like Lynn, I thought for sure he was goign to go home tonight due to his having missed DeAnna's subtle hints about her mom.. Hey there was your opportunity to talk to her about it and you missed it and instead focused on talking about himsefl wayyyy too much IMO. But his edit is starting to rise a bit now so we probably will be seeing more of him later down the road..

Jason--- LOVE LOVE LOVED his edit tonight though I thought he was being a little snarky with the guys when they asked who was going to go home tonight and he straight out said Twilley... *hehe* Thought it was so cute when he comforted her like that....

DeAnna---- now the blowup wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be but still getting a bit of an attitude there.. might want to tone it down a bit.. Felt bad for her on her rough 2:1 date night, however I do think she's being really picky about who to bring to the Final 4 and I think Robert's right in saying she most likely already has her Top 3 guys.... She and Graham had a lot of conflicts tonight and Im not sure how many more chances he will have with her.. am hoping he makes it to the F4 if not F3 along with Jason, Jeremy and whoever else goes along( either sean or Jesse)

My Takes on DeAnna's PI's tonight--- Glowing when talking about Jason, Jeremy and Confused when talking about Graham... kinda subdued a bit when talking about Jesse like she isn't that enthusiastic about him but for some reason finds him attractive...

I Feel so stupid. I hate it when people try to take advantage of the deaf.

Lynn7 · 06-10-2008, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ButterflyFaery

Lynn...I have to ask...do you think (as I do) but I want your opinion...that Jesse lied his Keister off when she asked him about cheating???

I said earlier that Jesse is so facially hard to read which makes me think that he's hiding something about himself. I will read him tomorrow to see if I see something different.

ButterflyFaery · 06-10-2008, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Lynn7

I said earlier that Jesse is so facially hard to read which makes me think that he's hiding something about himself. I will read him tomorrow to see if I see something different.

well JMO..but his eyes looked down and to the left which is classic of someone who is making something up or creating a story