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Old 06-03-2008, 03:46 AM   #101
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Yeah I noticed that, too! And that is a VERY good point...very possible indeed. He would be the one to ask since I don't think she was that comfortable with anyone else.
I think she also realized , that Jeremy has the confidence to do it . She did say , if he is able to hold himself up against the firing squad , she admired that. So maybe she did ask him to rescue her from certain one's.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:52 AM   #102
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Gosh I really wonder why he leaves...
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:20 AM   #103
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Gosh I really wonder why he leaves...
Well for me Psycho comes to mind..
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:32 AM   #104
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Perhaps Jealousy too.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:42 AM   #105
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Okay, I'm also glad that Ron is gone and yes, I do think he's pretty full of himself. But am I the only one who kinda liked what he said in his rejection speech? It drives me crazy sometimes when people (okay, mainly the girls) are standing there all crushed because they were "rejected" by someone they barely knew. Okay, some really fall in love quickly (like Richard) and I understand why they're upset, but Ron was nowhere near falling for her. And I prefer the postive point of view of the Bachelor/ette chosing one person in the end, and not the negative one of them rejecting 24 guys/girls. DeAnna herself said she can only have one husband (in a VO). She has to chose people... yes, the rejections are part of that, but I prefer to see the chosing as the main focus, not the rejections.
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Okay, I'm also glad that Ron is gone and yes, I do think he's pretty full of himself. But am I the only one who kinda liked what he said in his rejection speech? It drives me crazy sometimes when people (okay, mainly the girls) are standing there all crushed because they were "rejected" by someone they barely knew. Okay, some really fall in love quickly (like Richard) and I understand why they're upset, but Ron was nowhere near falling for her. And I prefer the postive point of view of the Bachelor/ette chosing one person in the end, and not the negative one of them rejecting 24 guys/girls. DeAnna herself said she can only have one husband (in a VO). She has to chose people... yes, the rejections are part of that, but I prefer to see the chosing as the main focus, not the rejections.
I was shaking my head when Paul was saying he couldn't understand what DeAhna didn't like about him. I wanted to tell him that it probably wasn't him, but that she probably liked the others just a little more. And then Ron said pretty much that! Now, I do think Dee actually DID reject Ron because he was attacking one of her favorites. However, I really liked Ron's attitude about his dismissal. It's tough competition. Somebody has to go.

That being said, I kind of liked Ron. It's hard to say, because we only see a little of what really goes on. Maybe Ron was too confrontational, maybe he was just jealous. But maybe Jeremy really is a pain. None of the guys seem to like or respect him. It could be jealousy, but they know Graham is high up on Dee's list, and they like him. Only the people who were there really know.
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sorry if it doesn't fly with ya'll but..seriously this guy is foolin' himself if he thinks he didn't get rejected. I am paraphrasing...she didn't reject me..she just choose other guys. if he wants to look at it like she choose the other guys and he didn't get rejected he can fool himself till Sunday. because that what rejection is...you don't get picked. seriously....this guy is a piece of work. even on his exit interview all he can talk about is Jeremy. let it go dude. both my husband and thought he got so fixated on competing with Jeremy that he lost sight of why he was there...to get to know DeAnna.



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Old 06-03-2008, 09:56 AM   #108
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I would agree that Ron's attitude was one that most of the rejectees should take, but like BuckeyeAddict said, I think that in Ron's case, she was rejecting HIM and not simply choosing others. I think that if all the other guys had taken themselves out, and Deanna's choice was either take Ron or go home alone, she'd go home alone.

The guy went beyond confronting one of her favorites. He was so full of himself that he'd never be interested enough in her. When Deanna took him outside to talk, part of her intent was to smooth things over in the rivalry, but she was also searching for a reason to keep him around. He didn't give her one. Instead, when she essentially asked him "do anything to attract me to you right now" he just sat back and essentially said "Well, I'm here".

There's little doubt in my mind that when Ellen pointed to someone on the piece of paper and said "he won't be around for long", she was referring to Ron.
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I was shaking my head when Paul was saying he couldn't understand what DeAhna didn't like about him. I wanted to tell him that it probably wasn't him, but that she probably liked the others just a little more. And then Ron said pretty much that! Now, I do think Dee actually DID reject Ron because he was attacking one of her favorites. However, I really liked Ron's attitude about his dismissal. It's tough competition. Somebody has to go.

That being said, I kind of liked Ron. It's hard to say, because we only see a little of what really goes on. Maybe Ron was too confrontational, maybe he was just jealous. But maybe Jeremy really is a pain. None of the guys seem to like or respect him. It could be jealousy, but they know Graham is high up on Dee's list, and they like him. Only the people who were there really know.
Although Ron came off very confrontational and rude last night, I have to say I still like him and would love to know why he and Jeremy do not like each other - I feel it goes deeper than Deanna.....

Did Jeremy remind anyone of John Paul last night??

Loved in his exit speech how he said Jeremy and Deanna wouldn't make a go of it - I happen to agree......especially since we know she doesn't choose him!!!
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I was shaking my head when Paul was saying he couldn't understand what DeAhna didn't like about him. I wanted to tell him that it probably wasn't him, but that she probably liked the others just a little more. And then Ron said pretty much that! Now, I do think Dee actually DID reject Ron because he was attacking one of her favorites. However, I really liked Ron's attitude about his dismissal. It's tough competition. Somebody has to go.

That being said, I kind of liked Ron. It's hard to say, because we only see a little of what really goes on. Maybe Ron was too confrontational, maybe he was just jealous. But maybe Jeremy really is a pain. None of the guys seem to like or respect him. It could be jealousy, but they know Graham is high up on Dee's list, and they like him. Only the people who were there really know.
Guys programmed (if you will) like Ron are rarely jealous. This is a type of guy you see running Fortune 500 companies - - where they will get you to dig a ditch even if you only had a spoon to do it with. They are passionate people by nature but have to work at being compassionate people (if they get an inclination to learn something out of the norm).

He'll flick the entire thing off like a spec of dust on his shoes because they can not compromise their tough exterior image. Tough go on a woman who chooses such a man as a spouse - unless she is programmed to be very independent and okay with a committed, but more emotionally shallow relationship.

His body mannerisms, as touched on my Lynn7, is very indicative of a man w/ walls - thick walls around their hearts - whoh in essence don't care what other people think about them ... and when they do, they build thicker walls yet to never let it show.

His exit - not being rejected... very indicative of this type of person - always come out on the top, even if you have to twist the way the truth is in order to look like you are still on top.

Truth is - he was rejected by her choice to not have him in her life.
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