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Old 06-06-2008, 03:13 PM   #951
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If it weren't for the spoiler that Jeremy was home on May 4th, I'd still think he was F2. It is just SO surprising to me that De would find out info on HTD and keep Jesse through that RC AND also through the FD to the F2. It just doesn't make sense that Jesse would stay to F2 if girlfriend is discovered on HTD.
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Old 06-06-2008, 03:19 PM   #952
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If it weren't for the spoiler that Jeremy was home on May 4th, I'd still think he was F2. It is just SO surprising to me that De would find out info on HTD and keep Jesse through that RC AND also through the FD to the F2. It just doesn't make sense that Jesse would stay to F2 if girlfriend is discovered on HTD.
I still think Jeremy could be f2. I still don't know what it is that is revealed on htd, if Jesse is just in this for exposure he would be savvy enough to keep it secret. (especially since he has not been exposed by the guys in house)
My only guess for him to reveal anything negative would be that he fell for D, met her family and saw their genuine love for her and decided to come clean and tell her anything he had been holding back. I don't think D would necessarily kick him to the curb. she was willing to give brad another chance (yeah I know she doesn't want another brad, per her comments) and maybe that comment is intended for him.

but if he shows that he is willing to be honest with her simply because its the right thing to do he may convince her she should keep him
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Old 06-06-2008, 03:37 PM   #953
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I am not into the swooning aspect of this. What I see is that people are not seeing Jason for himself. All they see is Jason plus child which is of course the conflict in the story. However, in reality DeAnna has to decide first and foremost does she fall for this man himself - Jason? Next she decides can she live with the other existing circumstances, i.e, his child, his ex-wife, and the fact that he lives in Seattle.

How does DeAnna feel about Jason....just Jason? If we see her appear to fall in love with Jason, then the rest of it will also fall in line ( at least as far as the story goes - note Trista, Ryan and the fact that Trista adopted Ryan's lifestyle and moved to his part of the country).

First things first...her relationship to Jason. Is it there? Next what does she do about the whole relationship? If she doesn't fall for the man himself, the rest of it is moot.

I agree. One has no control over love. You fall for who you do, when it happens. It cannot be planned or forced.

I am just along for the ride. I am not attatched to any outcome. I do not sense love happening so it is kind of dull for me this season. But we are not very far into it either so perhaps things will perk up.
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..... I do not think that the Bachelor/ette really makes up their minds during the LCDs. If you really watch most of those dates, the interaction with the F2 is almost alway much different than with the F1. Yes, there are some exceptions, but for the most part, the F1 is decided on well before the LCDs.

Sure, she will have to read the Fleiss script of how torn she is, but that is rarely really the case.

I agree, they already have a strong feeling. I watched Trista season last nite, and even though she kept saying up until the end didn't want to choose, was falling for both, etc., she knew. If you look at the difference in the last dates. She is all smoochy with Ryan, yet with Charlie when they are in the hot tub, she is on one side, he is on the other, and she is a leg length away, as her feet are up by his face. I was thinking she was subconciously saying, you ain't getting any closer. Her heart already knew it was Ryan.

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Old 06-06-2008, 03:51 PM   #955
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If it weren't for the spoiler that Jeremy was home on May 4th, I'd still think he was F2. It is just SO surprising to me that De would find out info on HTD and keep Jesse through that RC AND also through the FD to the F2. It just doesn't make sense that Jesse would stay to F2 if girlfriend is discovered on HTD.
Someone said DeAnna would find out on *her* HTD.
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If it weren't for the spoiler that Jeremy was home on May 4th, I'd still think he was F2. It is just SO surprising to me that De would find out info on HTD and keep Jesse through that RC AND also through the FD to the F2. It just doesn't make sense that Jesse would stay to F2 if girlfriend is discovered on HTD.
candimichele is correct. It was after he made it to F2 that she would have found out. Although there is the possibility, that it was after LCD.... Sometime before the FRC she probably received notice from an abc leak.

It would be awful if even abc did not know about it until after the show wrapped; but that would mean his handler did not know anything either, and I can't see Jesse being able to text without the handler knowing. So, most likely the info was leaked to her. Shocking for her to learn that far into the romance.
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I am not into the swooning aspect of this. What I see is that people are not seeing Jason for himself. All they see is Jason plus child which is of course the conflict in the story. However, in reality DeAnna has to decide first and foremost does she fall for this man himself - Jason? Next she decides can she live with the other existing circumstances, i.e, his child, his ex-wife, and the fact that he lives in Seattle.

How does DeAnna feel about Jason....just Jason? If we see her appear to fall in love with Jason, then the rest of it will also fall in line ( at least as far as the story goes - note Trista, Ryan and the fact that Trista adopted Ryan's lifestyle and moved to his part of the country).

First things first...her relationship to Jason. Is it there? Next what does she do about the whole relationship? If she doesn't fall for the man himself, the rest of it is moot.
Bloomers, ITA--so much so you should bookmark this post so we can refer to it 4-6 weeks from now when the season is over.
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If it weren't for the spoiler that Jeremy was home on May 4th, I'd still think he was F2. It is just SO surprising to me that De would find out info on HTD and keep Jesse through that RC AND also through the FD to the F2. It just doesn't make sense that Jesse would stay to F2 if girlfriend is discovered on HTD.
I understand that DEANNA finds out about Jesse on her home town date not his.
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Re: Jesse **SPOILERS**

So, the possibility that even tho Jeremy was F3, and then she finds out about Jesse, that the only choice left was Jason, and that if she would have had this info prior, that Jeremy could have been part of F1&2 and been the final choice?
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So, the possibility that even tho Jeremy was F3, and then she finds out about Jesse, that the only choice left was Jason, and that if she would have had this info prior, that Jeremy could have been part of F1&2 and been the final choice?
Something like that. Keep in mind god has a plan for everyone and if Jeremy was not to be the one, I am glad that he is gone.
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