Jesse **SPOILERS**

[Lifeisgood2]

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Originally Posted by SecretGarden

Wouldn't ABC know about his whole "girlfriend situation?" I'm sure they do pretty thorough background checks. And if everyone here has figured it out, I'm sure ABC can figure it out.

There's no way they would have let him on the show unless he was single. Right?

kate brockhouse went on Andy's season with a boyfriend. they really have no way to verify

[Mike'sgirl]

Originally Posted by SecretGarden

Wouldn't ABC know about his whole "girlfriend situation?" I'm sure they do pretty thorough background checks. And if everyone here has figured it out, I'm sure ABC can figure it out.

There's no way they would have let him on the show unless he was single. Right?

They would not bother to check it out if he lied to them through out the interview process. Maybe the reason that he text'd the break up to his girlfriend is because that's when his handler found out about it.

That could result in a big shock/surprise for De and Fleiss.

[Kresge]

Originally Posted by Kresge

The facts surrounding Jesse are as follows:

Out of his OWN mouth, he has sponsorships that pay only when he gets national exposure....no sooner did he ink the deal and he applied for The Bachelorette.

He WAS dating Megan2 when the show began.

He did breakup with her via a single line message ~ I READ IT.

De found out about his shady dealings during her hometown date (per Lynn7).


If anyone has any other real and relevant facts, I would love to hear them, but, at this point, all the rest is irrelevant speculation and innuendo. Makes NO difference whether Megan knew or didn't know, whether they had an agreement or didn't have one, whether they were in cahoots for publicity or not (I'm not saying that is the case).......BOTTOM LINE : Jesse was there under false pretenses and lied to De. Regardless of any other "facts" of this case, the fact that he lied to DeAnna SHOULD be enough to condemn him (as far as the show is concerned), as I don't see De as the kind of woman who would continue a relationship with a man that began on lies. Guess we'll see what happens!


Loveinallangles ~ Honestly, after reading this thread I don't know why anyone puts theirself out there anymore, so I want to say, I REALLY appreciate that you've took the heat and shared your inside information with us.

I'm bringing my own post forward because another relevant fact has surfaced. According to Hotlanta, De was aware of the endorsements, as were the other men, before her hometown date. This makes sense to me, as I think De would have been bright enough ask why he was wearing hats and sunglasses even when not needed.

So, this leaves me to believe that the info Lynn7 has reported that comes out during her hometown date must be the Megan connection.

[bizbachfan]

One question about D finding something about Jesse on her HTD, will we see this? though Lynn7 source says she will find it out, will it make it to air time? I think most agree that even if she decides she is done with Jesse if he is in f2 she will be forced to "play" along and take him to the LCD and FRC regardless of how she is feeling, so will they even give us that reasonable doubt because of the "revelation"? I don't think so, it would make it too obvious. Yes it would be dramatic but unless they show Deanna being able to deal with it then I am not sure they will show it. They did show the whole thing with Kirsten/Andrew's HTD. But to me the difference was he had been dealing with/asking her about the BF for a while. Even though he was shocked to find out she was still "with" the BF he had known there was an issue there since early on. I think if something comes at Deanna out of left field she will be shocked and be pretty hard for her to act as if she could still "choose" him. Unless perhaps Jesse does a great job of explaining himself.

Having said all that I doubt Jesse will just slip up, if he reveals something to someone on her HTD it will certainly be on purpose, he is a heck of a lot smarter than good old Kirsten

[KashatheDiva]

Originally Posted by bizbachfan

One question about D finding something about Jesse on her HTD, will we see this? though Lynn7 source says she will find it out, will it make it to air time? I think most agree that even if she decides she is done with Jesse if he is in f2 she will be forced to "play" along and take him to the LCD and FRC regardless of how she is feeling, so will they even give us that reasonable doubt because of the "revelation"? I don't think so, it would make it too obvious. Yes it would be dramatic but unless they show Deanna being able to deal with it then I am not sure they will show it. They did show the whole thing with Kirsten/Andrew's HTD. But to me the difference was he had been dealing with/asking her about the BF for a while. Even though he was shocked to find out she was still "with" the BF he had known there was an issue there since early on. I think if something comes at Deanna out of left field she will be shocked and be pretty hard for her to act as if she could still "choose" him. Unless perhaps Jesse does a great job of explaining himself.

Having said all that I doubt Jesse will just slip up, if he reveals something to someone on her HTD it will certainly be on purpose, he is a heck of a lot smarter than good old Kirsten

One thing for sure that we can count on: The almighty edit always wins. Always. We are going to be shown what TPTB want us to see. Some of the things being leaked are trojan horses.
All you have to do is refer to last season with the crouch shots of Chelsea making it onscreen--clipping toenails, FD nightie change and holding her FRC dress together--not very nice.

[bizbachfan]

Originally Posted by KashatheDiva

One thing for sure that we can count on: The almighty edit always wins. Always. We are going to be shown what TPTB want us to see. Some of the things being leaked are trojan horses.
All you have to do is refer to last season with the crouch shots of Chelsea making it onscreen--clipping toenails, FD nightie change and holding her FRC dress together--not very nice.

clipping toenails, I missed that, but yes good point, everyone has to have some bad moments, we just don't necessarily get to see them,
my guess Jason will have no bad moments, not even a bad hair day
remember everyone kept saying deanna could not be f1 because she had some bad girl/mean moments and in fact she was not chosen so okay for fleiss showing her not perfect

good point kasha

[jlccaz]

Contractually they can come on the show with a girlfriend/boyfriend, so long as it isn't a committed, cohabitating level of relationship. Standard language is:

All applicants must be single. To qualify as "single" the applicant must not currently be involved in a committed intimate relationship, which includes: any marital relationship (whether or not the parties are separated or currently in the process of divorcing or annulling such marriage); any co-habitation relationship involving physical intimacy.

[shoepie]

I can go either way on this. Fleiss has always done a good a job hiding F1. Rewatching Trista's season brought this back to me like gang busters. He didn't last year and that is because it was impossible to hide and it was a beautiful love story that deserved more than the cutting room floor. Is he back to his old trick of hiding F1 or has he decided to just make it obvious. Not that I see a love story here, not at all, but we have an obvious contender in Jason anyway.

[Bloomers]

Originally Posted by shoepie

I can go either way on this. Fleiss has always done a good a job hiding F1. Rewatching Trista's season brought this back to me like gang busters. He didn't last year and that is because it was impossible to hide and it was a beautiful love story that deserved more than the cutting room floor. Is he back to his old trick of hiding F1 or has he decided to just make it obvious. Not that I see a love story here, not at all, but we have an obvious contender in Jason anyway.

I am not into the swooning aspect of this. What I see is that people are not seeing Jason for himself. All they see is Jason plus child which is of course the conflict in the story. However, in reality DeAnna has to decide first and foremost does she fall for this man himself - Jason? Next she decides can she live with the other existing circumstances, i.e, his child, his ex-wife, and the fact that he lives in Seattle.

How does DeAnna feel about Jason....just Jason? If we see her appear to fall in love with Jason, then the rest of it will also fall in line ( at least as far as the story goes - note Trista, Ryan and the fact that Trista adopted Ryan's lifestyle and moved to his part of the country).

First things first...her relationship to Jason. Is it there? Next what does she do about the whole relationship? If she doesn't fall for the man himself, the rest of it is moot.