Jason **SPOILERS**

[girlsmom]

I'm struggling to see how a single custodial father leaving his three year old for 5-6 weeks to pursue the possibility of a realationship with a woman whom he saw on a reality show is good parenting. To me "fairy tale" means not real life, not realistic. In that sense I totally agree that this is a fairy tale. This is a child who has been deserted by his mother and now deserted by his father for five weeks. Five weeks to a five year old is forever, we moms know that. However, imo, irresponsible and downright needlessly neglectful Jason's appearance on this Fleiss circus is, by pursuing this "fairy tale ending", it apparently didn't bother Dee because we know he's at least f2 and she's the chooser.
As a sleuthing indication I would say that since she kept him around until f2, she was either not bothered by his parental behavior OR was in fact more deeply attracted by him having a three year old in need of a mother. Since she lost her mother this may have be a very compelling full circle scenario. So, where originally I thought that the son could be a deal breaker, after thinking it through I now would be stunned if Jason were not the F1.

btw: I have absolutely no issue with Jason's son appearing on t.v., watching the season, yes.

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[Bloomers]

Originally Posted by marlap

Kids are in television and movies all the time.
I just don't see any harm in it at all. Besides, kids LOVE being on televison. I was on a local kiddie birthday Saturnday morning show when I was little... I loved it!

Ty probably watched that Monday night sitting on Jason's lap and laughed and clapped and was THRILLED to see himself on TV. "Daddy, Daddy, I'm on TV!!!" I can't imagine it would for any reason upset him or scar him.

As far as Jason being gone for a few weeks...Ty is with family and Fleiss could very easily (and it would not surprise me if they did) set up a video conference call or regular telephone call with Jason and Ty every day so they could touch base. Parents have to leave kids all the time for all sorts of reasons. .

First in general in regards to this whole argument on this thread about the approriateness of Jason leaving his young child, Ty is not a nursing infant and Jason is not the bottle; second, the absolutley most critical moments of bonding time in a young child's life when it is imperative that the parent and child be together are past.*
Between the time that Jason left and the HTs is what - at the most 4 weeks? If I understood correctly, I read that Brad insisted he be allowed to call his grandparent ( or one of his family) on a routine basis, so it can be done. It would NOT surprise me with the involvement of a child, that Jason under the watchful eye of his handler was allowed to call his child for a couple of moments daily. If necessary, even the handler could inquire of the aunt as to how the child was doing.
* I am not insensitive to this child being away from his daddy, but I was a military child. At Ty's age, my daddy had been in Japan for a year, and although I am sure I missed him, I didn't suffer any great permanent damage from his deployment.

Next, children do love to see other children and themselves on tv. Also, I was on a local afternoon kiddie program too when I was a child. It was very popular, and it is one of my funniest and most warm memories.

Has this child been scarred by this experience? Do you remember all of the hubub about Amber's classroom children (Andy)? As far as I can tell, there was never any damage or harm done to any of them because they were on tv. I also don't think that Sarah Stone's kindergarten children suffered from being seen on this show either, or I never heard anything about it.

[palmasola]

What is causing the trauma...the lights on the cameras??? the big scary people? I think the people who put their "cute" kids on You Tube are better candidates for "worst parents of the year" than Jason. How is Ty being harmed??? Not all kids are cling-ons...One time when we were in Hawaii on a convention, we called our daughter who was three at the time. We had just moved to New Orleans area and found a loving family with three girls [through our real estate agent] who could use some extra money to keep her for the two weeks we were gone. After checking with the "sitters" to see how she was doing [fine], we asked to speak with her. She got on the phone and said "I've gotta go...were playing baseball". She was having a blast! Some kids are more independent than others. Who are we to judge???

[bizbachfan]

I would not want my kid filmed in his underwear going to bed, just me, no long term damage
dating is super tricky when being a single parent and needs to be handled very carefully
going on a reality show to find a woman when you are single dad seems a curious choice, yes he has a right to pursue love but not at the cost of time with his child, plus he knows deanna lives in GA and it would make a bit more sense if he lived within driving distance or something but to ask Deanna to uproot to be with him and Ty would be a bit bold for a man who has to make decisions for both him and his son

I just think if he sat and thought about all this before signing up for the show in the end he would not have taken the chance on getting his heart broken or his sons and dated closer to home. JMO, I am sure he is a good dad, but this was not a good decision, but if he is the one, hope it works out for them all

[scarletohara]

Originally Posted by heatheshells10

I know that this is spoilers and speculation and Jason put himself out there to be judged, but I think all the speculation about whether Jason is a good father may be crossing the line. We are to speculate how far we think he goes and whether maybe we think he could be a good match for DeAnna. His background information is useful, but I think there is a line. There is no amount of digging that will tell us how good of a father Jason is. The awful situation he was put in and the way he has seemingly dealt with it gives me all I need to know. I guess maybe I have a different perspective since I'm young and do not have children, but I don't think it's fair to judge someone's parenting when we don't know Jason, his son nor have we witnessed his parenting. People make decisions for different reasons. Everyone is different and has different ideas about what is a good and what is a bad idea. I'm not trying to justify his going on the show or letting his son appear on camera and I'm not trying to say that your opinion is not valid, I'm just trying to say that it is not right to judge whether Jason is a good father just based on what we've seen so far. I personally never feel right judging someone's parenting when I know nothing of the situation, but that's just me.

I would like to agree and say I totally agree with this post. The difference is that I am married with grown children, one Jason's age. I don't think it is fair to judge his parenting skills based on what we have seen so far on reality tv.

[girlsmom]

Originally Posted by bizbachfan

I would not want my kid filmed in his underwear going to bed, just me, no long term damage
dating is super tricky when being a single parent and needs to be handled very carefully
going on a reality show to find a woman when you are single dad seems a curious choice, yes he has a right to pursue love but not at the cost of time with his child, plus he knows deanna lives in GA and it would make a bit more sense if he lived within driving distance or something but to ask Deanna to uproot to be with him and Ty would be a bit bold for a man who has to make decisions for both him and his son

I just think if he sat and thought about all this before signing up for the show in the end he would not have taken the chance on getting his heart broken or his sons and dated closer to home. JMO, I am sure he is a good dad, but this was not a good decision, but if he is the one, hope it works out for them all

bizbachfan Great statement. I've lost my rose colored glasses so I doubt this outcome, but I would hope against hope that they are happy now!

[bizbachfan]

Originally Posted by girlsmom

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bizbachfan Great statement. I've lost my rose colored glasses so I doubt this outcome, but I would hope against hope that they are happy now!

I have to say if Jason is the one I think it will be a very difficult road to travel to get married and move across country etc. when a child is involved, but if Deanna is in love I am sure she will handle it but she is so close to her family living a 5 hours plane ride away would be tough, can't wait to see the ending

[cantstopwatchin]

Originally Posted by girlsmom

I'm struggling to see how a single custodial father leaving his three year old for 5-6 weeks to pursue the possibility of a realationship with a woman whom he saw on a reality show is good parenting. To me "fairy tale" means not real life, not realistic. In that sense I totally agree that this is a fairy tale. This is a child who has been deserted by his mother and now deserted by his father for five weeks. Five weeks to a five year old is forever, we moms know that. However, imo, irresponsible and downright needlessly neglectful Jason's appearance on this Fleiss circus is, by pursuing this "fairy tale ending", it apparently didn't bother Dee because we know he's at least f2 and she's the chooser.

I know we could discuss this issue until the cows come home, but I wanted to touch on a few points since we're all busy speculating here.

My DH went away for 2 wks in March on a business trip to Europe. Yes, my 5yr old noticed a bit and we had a countdown to when he came home, but my 3yr old did not notice AT ALL. When we picked DH at the airport, my 3yr old was kinda like 'hey, there you are!' He was excited and happy and no grudges were held. It's amazing how time flies when you keep kids occupied every day--we had lots of playdates with friends and family. All they care about at this age is being able to run around and have fun.

Now, Jason is a single father who, obviously, works. For all we know, his mother or sister watch Ty while he's at work every day so it wouldn't be out of the norm for him to be staying at their house, having meals there, or even sleeping there. Maybe he's got cousins to play with. My kids LOVE when they go over to their aunt's house and play with their older cousins and they never want to leave their grandparent's house.

We've got to trust what we heard Jason say in his intro-- that leaving Ty would be the hardest thing and he didn't know how he would do it. That being said-- he did do it, so he must've had a lot of faith in his family to take care of his son while he was gone. I think to be a single father, you HAVE to lean on and trust and depend on your family.

Regarding Ty being on tv-- I don't have a problem with his having some face time-- what I have a problem with is the possible lengths people might go to to find out information about him. Obviously there was no way Jason could go on the show w/o disclosing he had a son, what his name was and such, but I worry over the lack of privacy because of it.

I'm a complete romantic at heart.... and a mom of young kids.... and I DO find it romantic that he possibly saw Deanna on B11, fell for her a bit, and then decided he wanted shot with her by doing the show. If I had a single young father who was a friend of mine, I would definitely want that for him. Who doesn't want to see your friend/son/brother fall in love... no matter how it happens... and I'd do my darndest to help them out if that were the case.

[Spoil Me]

Originally Posted by cantstopwatchin

I know we could discuss this issue until the cows come home, but I wanted to touch on a few points since we're all busy speculating here.

My DH went away for 2 wks in March on a business trip to Europe. Yes, my 5yr old noticed a bit and we had a countdown to when he came home, but my 3yr old did not notice AT ALL. When we picked DH at the airport, my 3yr old was kinda like 'hey, there you are!' He was excited and happy and no grudges were held. It's amazing how time flies when you keep kids occupied every day--we had lots of playdates with friends and family. All they care about at this age is being able to run around and have fun.

Now, Jason is a single father who, obviously, works. For all we know, his mother or sister watch Ty while he's at work every day so it wouldn't be out of the norm for him to be staying at their house, having meals there, or even sleeping there. Maybe he's got cousins to play with. My kids LOVE when they go over to their aunt's house and play with their older cousins and they never want to leave their grandparent's house.

We've got to trust what we heard Jason say in his intro-- that leaving Ty would be the hardest thing and he didn't know how he would do it. That being said-- he did do it, so he must've had a lot of faith in his family to take care of his son while he was gone. I think to be a single father, you HAVE to lean on and trust and depend on your family.

Regarding Ty being on tv-- I don't have a problem with his having some face time-- what I have a problem with is the possible lengths people might go to to find out information about him. Obviously there was no way Jason could go on the show w/o disclosing he had a son, what his name was and such, but I worry over the lack of privacy because of it.

I'm a complete romantic at heart.... and a mom of young kids.... and I DO find it romantic that he possibly saw Deanna on B11, fell for her a bit, and then decided he wanted shot with her by doing the show. If I had a single young father who was a friend of mine, I would definitely want that for him. Who doesn't want to see your friend/son/brother fall in love... no matter how it happens... and I'd do my darndest to help them out if that were the case.

I couldn't agree with you more!

I found a blog that I believe is written by Jason's sister - it has a few pics of her, her hubby and two kids - a little girl and a little boy (who looks a lot like Ty). I would be willing to bet, that while I have no doubt he missed his daddy, he sure as heck had a whale of a time staying with his Aunt, Uncle and cousins.

[bizbachfan]

actually leaving the child for several weeks is not the worst part of it to me, rather its the decision to try to find a person to date on a reality show knowing that if he happens to be chosen it will be very tough to date long distance, etc.

being a single dad and dating someone in your neighborhood is hard enough
we all know the track record of this show so even if he and deanna get engaged its very likely after the magic of the show wears off they may not make it and of course when you are single you don't want to let your kids get attached to anyone you are dating, trust me been there done that and its painful for everyone
and of course I do not pretend to know what kind of father he is but the time away is really the least of his worries again JMO