Jason **SPOILERS**

[lyb5007]

Originally Posted by jelle

Why is no one disturbed that Jason put his kid on realty tv to make his edit/image better? I am sure that ABC loved it that he was willing to pimp out his kid for ratings, but somehow that smacks of poor parenting judgement. There is no reason that they could not have done the scenes without involving the child. Why would you use your child to set up the "good but lonely father" persona to go date a hot chick on tv and be gone for six weeks? His child is only three.
We haven't seen anyone else's child filmed (but they have been talked about), and even Amanda kept her parents hidden ... as did Ian.

Sorry for the blasphemy, but I think he made a poor choice - even if those scenes were filmed at the end of the show after the child had met Deanna.

I honestly can't imagine that I would do that. I am simply trusting that Jason knows his son and the circumstances in which he leaves him well enough to be sure that his child will be fine. Perhaps it is poor parenting judgment on his part. I hope not. I hope he is right. Parents do have to leave their children sometimes. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking military people and those whose business enterprises require them to leave their families, sometimes for long periods of time. I'm also hoping that Fleiss would have allowed Jason to be in touch with Ty. I'm probably being naive, but it's what I hope.

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[skylighter]

Originally Posted by jelle

Why is no one disturbed that Jason put his kid on realty tv to make his edit/image better? I am sure that ABC loved it that he was willing to pimp out his kid for ratings, but somehow that smacks of poor parenting judgement. There is no reason that they could not have done the scenes without involving the child. Why would you use your child to set up the "good but lonely father" persona to go date a hot chick on tv and be gone for six weeks? His child is only three.
We haven't seen anyone else's child filmed (but they have been talked about), and even Amanda kept her parents hidden ... as did Ian.

Sorry for the blasphemy, but I think he made a poor choice - even if those scenes were filmed at the end of the show after the child had met Deanna.

Is that what he did? Or is it the producers using that footage to create the edit they want for him? I have a hard time believing that any of the people on this show (except MAYBE the main bachelor/bachelorette) have any kind of say in how their footage is put together. That minutes-long intro package might have been pulled from hours of film. Who knows what else they filmed Jason doing.

[jelle]

Wait ... wait ...

We saw his child on tv. No producer could put your child on television without your permission. Why would a parent do that?

And for what other reason would they use the footage except to creat his story line?

I am guessing the footage was shot after the show or during the HT dates. I cannot believe that Jason would talk about what he was doing enough that his three year old could understand who Deanna was, when the father supposedly had not met her yet. At least I would hope not

[heatheshells10]

I know that this is spoilers and speculation and Jason put himself out there to be judged, but I think all the speculation about whether Jason is a good father may be crossing the line. We are to speculate how far we think he goes and whether maybe we think he could be a good match for DeAnna. His background information is useful, but I think there is a line. There is no amount of digging that will tell us how good of a father Jason is. The awful situation he was put in and the way he has seemingly dealt with it gives me all I need to know. I guess maybe I have a different perspective since I'm young and do not have children, but I don't think it's fair to judge someone's parenting when we don't know Jason, his son nor have we witnessed his parenting. People make decisions for different reasons. Everyone is different and has different ideas about what is a good and what is a bad idea. I'm not trying to justify his going on the show or letting his son appear on camera and I'm not trying to say that your opinion is not valid, I'm just trying to say that it is not right to judge whether Jason is a good father just based on what we've seen so far. I personally never feel right judging someone's parenting when I know nothing of the situation, but that's just me.

[KareyR2]

Originally Posted by jelle

Why is no one disturbed that Jason put his kid on realty tv to make his edit/image better? I am sure that ABC loved it that he was willing to pimp out his kid for ratings, but somehow that smacks of poor parenting judgement. There is no reason that they could not have done the scenes without involving the child. Why would you use your child to set up the "good but lonely father" persona to go date a hot chick on tv and be gone for six weeks? His child is only three.
We haven't seen anyone else's child filmed (but they have been talked about), and even Amanda kept her parents hidden ... as did Ian.

Sorry for the blasphemy, but I think he made a poor choice - even if those scenes were filmed at the end of the show after the child had met Deanna.

I never heard anyone screaming foul when Ryan and Trista proudly showed off their son on international TV. And that was with a huge studio audience of total strangers. Ty was in his home, in his secure and safe environment. Thanks
Karey

[Lynn7]

Originally Posted by bachlorfan

I've seen this scnario too. Not a pretty site.

I've seen it too, many times, and it really bugs me. Those types of women are selfish and self absorbed. They only start to take notice when another woman loves their child more than they did and it seems to wake them up but it is for selfish reasons

I really hope, that if Jason if F1, that the biological mother just leaves them be, as she apparently has been. It really complicates things when the mother shows up, out of left field, when the father has reassured the girlfriend that she won't be a problem (been there); because she hasn't been in the picture (but men don't think the way we do)...and then, there she is...the poor mother, regretting her past actions, wanting to be understood, wanting to spend quality time with her child all of a sudden.

But, methinks DeAnna, when she loves or cares deeply about someone, won't take BS from anybody and will instinctively protect that child, or any friend or family member, like they were her own and never give up on them. I never cared for her, as in a friend, but I definitely see it in her to be the mother lion personality...blood lines notwithstanding...she will love that boy and heaven help anyone who comes inbetween them. I just hope she loves Jason more than that...if that makes sense. I just see it in her to instinctively be drawn in by that little, essentially motherless, boy and love him like her own from the get to. But, does she love Jason for the wonderful man that he is too?

[jelle]

It is my opinion that it was poor judgement to put his three year old child on reality tv. Whether that is considered poor parenting or not, that is up to anyone else. I cannot understand why any parent would ever do that. Perhaps there is a reason - perhaps it paid his rent - perhaps he thought it was cute - perhaps it insured a good edit. Who knows?

Trista and Ryan are showing off their little family for money. They are no different that the movie stars who get paid really big bucks for first baby photos. Perhaps Jason got paid enough to make it worth his while also.

[Jasmine305]

I am not criticizing Jason at all, but I remember when I was station in England, I had to go to Spain to particiapte in an exercise for three weeks. When I came back I went to pick up my one year old son (dad was at work). He was so mad he would not look at me the whole time I was at the babysitters. Only when I said that it was time to go home did he run to me and all was forgiven. It was heart wrenching.

[heatheshells10]

I don't think getting paid is a good reason to have your child be on television or in magazines. Maybe my opinion is completely wackadoodle but I would rather see the child in a short segment of Jason's life, keep in mind lots of the men had segments and Ty is key in Jason's life, than pictures splayed all over the newstands of a newborn and bringing the child all over talk shows and such. Jason did not get paid, I'm sure. I honestly believe, and you can call me a hopeless romantic or naiive as I am the first and can be the second from time to time, that Jason went on the show after watching B11. His mom liked DeAnna, so I assume that Jason had seen the show as well. I think he had been separated from his wife for a while, saw her get her heart broken and it resonated with him. I think he saw something in her that compelled him to go on the show to get a chance to meet her. I believe that it was hard for him to leave his son, but this was the only opportunity he had. He did not just up and abandon his son. We could debate whether it was a good decision but obviously you feel it was not. I was just providing insight as to why he might have felt differently. I think getting paid millions of dollars to pimp your child out in pictures with the press is worse, but that's just my opinion. I'm sure your mileage varies, which is good. Life would be boring if we all were robots and had the same opinions!

[candimichele]

Originally Posted by heatheshells10

I don't think getting paid is a good reason to have your child be on television or in magazines. Maybe my opinion is completely wackadoodle but I would rather see the child in a short segment of Jason's life, keep in mind lots of the men had segments and Ty is key in Jason's life, than pictures splayed all over the newstands of a newborn and bringing the child all over talk shows and such. Jason did not get paid, I'm sure. I honestly believe, and you can call me a hopeless romantic or naiive as I am the first and can be the second from time to time, that Jason went on the show after watching B11. His mom liked DeAnna, so I assume that Jason had seen the show as well. I think he had been separated from his wife for a while, saw her get her heart broken and it resonated with him. I think he saw something in her that compelled him to go on the show to get a chance to meet her. I believe that it was hard for him to leave his son, but this was the only opportunity he had. He did not just up and abandon his son. We could debate whether it was a good decision but obviously you feel it was not. I was just providing insight as to why he might have felt differently. I think getting paid millions of dollars to pimp your child out in pictures with the press is worse, but that's just my opinion. I'm sure your mileage varies, which is good. Life would be boring if we all were robots and had the same opinions!

Great post! I personally don't see anything wrong w/them showing a short segment of Jason's son, he is a big part of his life. I see children on TV all the time so I guess that could be why I don't think it's a big deal.