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Old 05-22-2008, 03:16 PM   #631
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I just don’t understand why you think Jason is F1 or even F3.
We just have the first show and premier and based on that how can we be sure he is F1?
DE mentioned something when she gave away her First impression Rose that she doesn’t want the person who catched her eyes be released by having the Rose ,but in the other side she almost gave away the last rose to Jason.
So I don’t think Jason even is F3 let alone F1.
One more thing: I am new in this board, I just want to know how was the previous guesses about previous bachelors and bacheloretts. Did the spoilers and speculations become right? or all was wrong? I mean did you guess who the bachelor picks finally correctly?
Hey Shirin, welcome to the FORT!!! You know, people on here aren't merely "guessing" who could be F4, F3, F2 or F1... We break up all the previews that we get into screencaps (well, some computer savvy people do ) and then we try to analyze which guys go on which dates and when they are eliminated. The fantasy dates are always the final three guys (or girls, on the Bachelor). So once we have screencaps that look like they are in a more tropical place than L.A., we try to figure out the destination (in this case the Bahamas) and the hotels and activities we find in the pictures. Once we know which screencaps show fantasy dates, we know that the guys shown in them are in the F3. And the guys in the fantasy screencaps this time are Jason, Jeremy and Jesse. We pretty much know that Jeremy is leaving at F3 because 1. there are screencaps that look like DeAnna's saying goodbye to him and 2. because friends saw him back at home before the FRC was taped. So he can't be F2 or F1. That leaves Jesse and Jason for the final two guys which means Jason could very well be F1.
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I just don’t understand why you think Jason is F1 or even F3.
We just have the first show and premier and based on that how can we be sure he is F1?
DE mentioned something when she gave away her First impression Rose that she doesn’t want the person who catched her eyes be released by having the Rose ,but in the other side she almost gave away the last rose to Jason.
So I don’t think Jason even is F3 let alone F1.
One more thing: I am new in this board, I just want to know how was the previous guesses about previous bachelors and bacheloretts. Did the spoilers and speculations become right? or all was wrong? I mean did you guess who the bachelor picks finally correctly?


The positions of the bachelors - and where they land at the end for the most part - have been discovered by very good sleuthers on this board - based on information that has been gleaned from other posters and from screen caps (pictures) that have been made availble to us. There are pictures that allude to the fact that Jason gets a Fantasy Date - which places him at least at F3 - and others that place him at F2 as well.

SOme things are placed in the guess place tho LOL - and that is part of the game for the sleuthers - tho they have been very successful over the years as to figure out who ends up in the F3 - F2 - and even the F1

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shirin if you want to know what happens during this season, go to the episode breakdown thread here. We've been sleuthing this show for a long time and many of the folks here are fantastic at it. If you analyze screencaps that are shown in the promos and at the end of the premier episode, it is indeed possible to know who the Final three, or in DeAnna's case, final two will be. Dont peak if you dont want to know. http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forums/bachelorette-spoilers-speculation/75225-episode-breakdown.html
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imo, It's all about the child and his needs. If you marry the father you marry the child. That's not to say that it wouldn't be a wonderful experience, but it's very different, imo. The children's needs always come first, imo and that takes some of the focus off the relationship. To me it has nothing to do with blame, it's just a fact, imo, that having a child involved in the relationship brings complications.
Although the needs of the child are very important, I don't believe it is "all" about the child and his needs. If the child were 15 years old and a widow or divorcee remarried who the child liked better, this would in the end not work out for the two adults.

I think what is most important are the feelings that Jason and DeAnna have for each other. Jason definitely considers his sons needs, but the needs of the child will naturally be met when two responsible caring adults are together.
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Although the needs of the child are very important, I don't believe it is "all" about the child and his needs. If the child were 15 years old and a widow or divorcee remarried who the child liked better, this would in the end not work out for the two adults.

I think what is most important are the feelings that Jason and DeAnna have for each other. Jason definitely considers his sons needs, but the needs of the child will naturally be met when two responsible caring adults are together.
I guess I'm a hard-liner when it comes to small children. I feel that he didn't ask to be born and that his needs should always come first. I know not everyone agrees. This is why I feel that Jason's future wife marries his son as much as he marries him. I feel for adults with small children, but they MUST, imo, do the right thing by their children always. This little guy need a step mom who wants to be his mom as much as she wants to be his dad's wife, imo. This is particularly true given the apparent custody situation. jmo
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I think that when folks come together - and create a family - it is the needs of the whole family that need to be considered - with special emphasis on the children involved as well - and on the couple as well - and on all of them together as well - as a family
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I just don’t understand why you think Jason is F1 or even F3.
We just have the first show and premier and based on that how can we be sure he is F1?
DE mentioned something when she gave away her First impression Rose that she doesn’t want the person who catched her eyes be released by having the Rose ,but in the other side she almost gave away the last rose to Jason.
So I don’t think Jason even is F3 let alone F1.
One more thing: I am new in this board, I just want to know how was the previous guesses about previous bachelors and bacheloretts. Did the spoilers and speculations become right? or all was wrong? I mean did you guess who the bachelor picks finally correctly?
We don't know if he is F3, F2 or F1 for sure but we do know that he is in the final three because screencaps place him at the Westin Hotel in the Bahamas where the fantasy overnight dates (Final Three round) took place and do to caps of Jeremy's apparent departure looks like Jason is at least the F2 and good probability to be F1. We are going on screencaps not the few moments on each guy that we saw in episode 1. We can't judge anybody's character by what little we learn in one episode. Now to the divorce/custody I agree that Jason did open himself up for scrutiny by being on the show, but I also think that a three year old boy is innocent to the decisions made be the adults in his life and should probably be protected a little bit. JMO though. The details provided by Jason's former co-worker is enough to satisfy the curiosity of us and the rest of the details aren't really pertinant to the outcome of the show. De has a good head on her shoulders, will decide what complications go beyond the imaginary line she won't cross and which ones won't, and she will follow her heart. Jason, De, Ty and anybody else involved (Jesse, Jeremy etc) will be just fine no matter what we talk about here.
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......the crazy situation surrounding the SHOW and long distance dating would make the dating process much more complicated than the normal meeting the guy in your town and gradually being introduced to the child. She wouldn't just be dating Jason, she'd be setting up expectations for his son. Since Jason is F2 I would be stunned if this did not enter into her F1 choice. I can't imagine anything that would change a relationship more than having a small child involved it would bring much more pressure on a budding long distance relationship and on De. It wouldn't surprise me to find out that she picked the other guy, Jesse, because of Jason's child. She wouldn't just be committing to Jason, she'd be committing to his son. jmho
I think the fact that D didn't immediately kick Jason to the curb at the next rose ceremony after finding out about the son, shows she was atleast open to dating a man w child, and getting to know Jason better. I imagine when she went to his HTD she tried to figure out, can I fit into this or not. If no, I think Jason would go out at F-4.

Since we hear that Jeremey may go (his choice perhaps at F4), then the soonest Jason could go (if she wanted him gone) would be F-3. If he makes that cut, he is a keeper. While its always possible she could chose the other guys, (any other guy without a child), after seeing Jason's life, she either wants the package or she doesn't. I think she will know it with the HTD.
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We don't know if he is F3, F2 or F1 for sure but we do know that he is in the final three because screencaps place him at the Westin Hotel in the Bahamas where the fantasy overnight dates (Final Three round) took place and do to caps of Jeremy's apparent departure looks like Jason is at least the F2 and good probability to be F1. We are going on screencaps not the few moments on each guy that we saw in episode 1. We can't judge anybody's character by what little we learn in one episode. Now to the divorce/custody I agree that Jason did open himself up for scrutiny by being on the show, but I also think that a three year old boy is innocent to the decisions made be the adults in his life and should probably be protected a little bit. JMO though. The details provided by Jason's former co-worker is enough to satisfy the curiosity of us and the rest of the details aren't really pertinant to the outcome of the show. De has a good head on her shoulders, will decide what complications go beyond the imaginary line she won't cross and which ones won't, and she will follow her heart. Jason, De, Ty and anybody else involved (Jesse, Jeremy etc) will be just fine no matter what we talk about here.

Thanks you all for answering my questions.
But how on the earth Jess can be F2?,WOW
Is she out of her mind?
Even I canot picture her with Sean.
I prefer Jason,Jermy and Graham.
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We are not appointed to judge someone else's action other then our own; that is why I say I am not interested to know the "why" of Jason's divorce.
I think we are all protective of D. We don't want her heart broken again. For myself, I was thinking how could this great looking guy, great job, family oriented guy with child be single? What was going on? What was wrong? Now that we have atleast some knowledge of what happened, I find myself cheering him on, wishing him the best. While I agree, we don't need to know the intimate details of what went wrong, just a broad stroke "highlights", did it for me.

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