Jason **SPOILERS**

[diluvlabs]

Originally Posted by sfthrtd74

Okay call me crazy.. but I do NOT see Graham coming back and proposing to her... maybe coming back and saying I make a mistake.. okay lets go jump in the sack because that is really all our relationship was based on.. maybe.... but proposal.. NO WAY!

ITA - well, I can't even see Graham returning AT ALL! He has not seemed interested in De through this whole process! His body language screams that he is NOT into her at all, and when they have kissed, it has always been initiated by Deanna. Maybe some people see this as just being afraid to committ - but when I watch these two together, I just cringe. He is totally not feeling her at all! JMO!

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[JasonRocks]

Ok I'm a newcomer to the board and I've invested a lot of time reading through the various threads trying to put together what people are finding from SCs, etc. However I can't find these SCs to which you are referring - showing Jeremy walking away crying, outside the hotel, etc. I've seen one of DeAnna (apparently) wishing someone goodbye in the daylight, but otherwise it's not clear where to find these SCs. I've looked through 5 pages of SCs under the "Bachelorette 4 Screencaps Only" thread, but don't see these - would someone please help me?

Thanks for your patience and understanding!!!

[Shannonm93]

Originally Posted by JasonRocks

Ok I'm a newcomer to the board and I've invested a lot of time reading through the various threads trying to put together what people are finding from SCs, etc. However I can't find these SCs to which you are referring - showing Jeremy walking away crying, outside the hotel, etc. I've seen one of DeAnna (apparently) wishing someone goodbye in the daylight, but otherwise it's not clear where to find these SCs. I've looked through 5 pages of SCs under the "Bachelorette 4 Screencaps Only" thread, but don't see these - would someone please help me?

Thanks for your patience and understanding!!!

JasonRocks, first of all to FORT!

Secondly, I've attached some of the sc's you were looking for ...

[skylighter]

Originally Posted by cape

Hey Stargazers...

thought you might enjoy the new photo I put up in the screencaps thread...it a picture of the F2 in the limo and it is NOT JASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Part 2: Spoilers & Screencap Analysis ONLY *SPOILERS* Bachelorette 4 - DeAnna

I must say Cape, it is very reassuring to see that you are one of the ones who is seemingly confident about things ending up nicely for DeAnna and Jason, at least with regard to things that happened during and after the filming. A lot of folks claim to have sources that have told them this and that, but it is often colored by the fact that they are biased in favor of bachelor x, y, or z. I don't see much of that bias with you, which makes your posts on the subject that much more believable.

[Tiger Pride Mom]

Originally Posted by Alelady

ITA! That has been my thought all along - why DeAnna has been so tight-lipped, and why they haven't been promoting the "fairytale ending" to death. I think it's just simply there, and maybe, just maybe, Fleiss and co. are trying to make it seem not so, just to trick us and make it more interesting.

I suffered a severe case of Buttercup poisoning last season and had to zip my lips for a good long while here. Even now, I've had to avoid a number of threads when I used to religiously read everything.

Having said that, I've also seen all of the B and B'ette seasons, so this is coming from some experience.

Fleiss did take a hit about the last Bachelor season with it so flagrantly being little more than a series of Shayne audition tapes. Viewership was down and lotsa lotsa folks were gagging, then clicking the remote. Under the guise of showing us the "real love story," Fleiss ultimately shot himself in the foot. So what's a slimy producer-type to do with this season's (tongue-in-cheek) debacle? "OMG!" says he. "What am I gonna do NOW?! I actually have the real deal--a genuine love story! Curses! I can't show it the way I did with Buttercup and the Brit.!"

"So, I'll revert to formula--downplay DeAnna's reaction in the early going--and not have her plastered all over the radio and talk shows. I know! I'll have her echo HWSNBN's sentiments about 'being happy with the outcome.' That will throw some viewers off. We won't advertise a fairytale ending right away; we'll hide that there's a proposal. We'll spice it up with some speculation about 'second-guessing' and 'a twist'; that always gets 'em. "Then," (here's where he rubs his hands in glee), "when they see that Jason, Ty and DeAnna really did choose one another, we'll do an ATFR--haven't done one of those in awhile and it should get the viewers off my back."

And really, I do believe the guy couldn't show another moment more of Jason and DeAnna than he has because it would have been a dead giveaway. All one has to do is review what DeAnna has said during the last B season and both in advance and in retrospect on this one. Pivotal has been her desire to treat the bachelors better than she was treated. She has refused to lead on those more interested in her than she in them. In Graham's case--he IS the type she usually falls for. Her previous dating life pointed her toward him. She expected/wanted it to play out within her comfort zone. But...it didn't. As she, herself, said, she found herself attracted to guys outside her usual type. And, she was courageous, focused and sincere enough to open her heart to those possibilities.

Finally--and I truly apologize for the length of this post--I completely agree with those who feel DeAnna would NEVER take Jason to F2 only to reject him. He would be gone at F3, if not WAY before. But he's not gone and won't be gone. And it sent ol' Fleiss scrambling back to Washington to film Jason and Ty after the FRC because he knew how much Ty was a choice for DeAnna and he wanted to show why she "fell in love with two men," even if one of them IS a little man.

[bamabrain]

Originally Posted by Arielflies

Where did the word, TWIST, come into play with this season, anyway? I know my memory is spotty at best, but I don't remember any promos or advertisements or darling Chris saying anything about a TWIST to the ending of the show. For those not reading screencaps, there may be surprises (DeAnna loves surprises, as does Jason) but only if they don't watch the budding love story in a neutral frame of mind. Really - if someone knows who stated or where it is stated that there is a TWIST this season, let me know. Thanks.

Like a lot of things on the internet, I think it morphed. I think the origin of the cyber myth might be De's interview in which she said something to the effect of being surprised that she was attracted to someone other than her usual type. I thought it was a fairly innocuous statement, though telling, of who her F1 might be. But I certainly didn't think it was grounds for a new show--The Bachelorette: Calling Back All Lazaruses. And that would include not only Graham but Jeremy as well.

[JasonRocks]

Originally Posted by Shannonm93

Thank you cape!

I don't mean to be skeptical, and I know that my lasik surgery wasn't perfect, but how can you possibly tell that it isn't Jason? I can't make out a single pixel of data that indicates who it is, and in fact it could be ANYONE in that limo - for all we know it's Scooby Do!

[Larel]

Originally Posted by itsyourmom

Exactly. No evidence and no further posts. No, the only advertised one was the living situation, I think. I don't recall CH saying anything. I think the FORT has just gotten too good and someone comes along to try to throw us off the trail.

Seriously, nothing was ever said about an actual twist happening in the show involving a Bachelor?

I though all this talk came from the fact that in the preview somewhere something was mentioned about a twist, so there was not any real solid info to their ever being a big twist to this season!

[talldede]

Originally Posted by JasonRocks

I don't mean to be skeptical, and I know that my lasik surgery wasn't perfect, but how can you possibly tell that it isn't Jason? I can't make out a single pixel of data that indicates who it is, and in fact it could be ANYONE in that limo - for all we know it's Scooby Do!

Trust us, it's Jesse. There are posters on here who have been doing this every season.

Screencaps don't lie, the eyes and face are Jesse.

[Larel]

Originally Posted by JasonRocks

I don't mean to be skeptical, and I know that my lasik surgery wasn't perfect, but how can you possibly tell that it isn't Jason? I can't make out a single pixel of data that indicates who it is, and in fact it could be ANYONE in that limo - for all we know it's Scooby Do!

I was like that at first too but all of a sudden I just saw it, the hair at the side & the eyes are NOT Jason, too much hair at the side & alot more than Jason has on top!

I am actually going to say with nearly total certainty it's Jesse, no way that is Jason, even the eyes resemble Jesse if you look closely at it lightned up!