Jason **SPOILERS**

[appiah01]

I also don't have a problem with it. I come from a family that has done foster care for over 20 years. We have had children who have been physically and sexually abused, neglected, left homeless, etc. I've seen really bad parents and parents who love their children but don't have the means to care for them. That's really disturbing to me. Ty seems well adjusted and very very loved.

I am an attorney. At large law firms there are people who literally work anywhere from 70-100 hours a week. Technically they are present in their children's lives but work dictates that in many ways they aren't. My own father worked upwards of 60 hours a week as a machinist when I was growing up so that my mother could stay home and so that we could have a great middle class life. Was he highly physically present- not really but I never had a doubt that my father loved me. He also went away for 3 weeks sometimes when he would go home (he is from West Africa). I never felt neglected by my father. In fact I am nothing if not a daddy's girl to this day despite his absences. There are also many children who go away to summer camp or to stay with their out of state grandparents for 4 - 6 weeks or even an entire summer. Rarely are their parents accused of being bad parents for sending their children away.

I think parenting is definitely an imprecise science and that love covers a multitude of perceived sins. I have no doubt the people in Jason's life encouraged him to do this for himself and his happiness because a happy Jason will certainly make for a happy Ty. It may be improbable that love can last after this show but Jason seems to have a good head on his shoulders and also seems intuitive. If he did not feel that remaining away from his son would pay off with another person who would love Ty, in the form of Deanna, or if Ty sounded unhappy or distressed in any of their phone conversations, my guess is he would have left and returned home.

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[FelizMonkey]

Originally Posted by DestinyFan

Just because Jason has a son, doesnt mean he cant have a life too. He deserves to find that love in his life that I'm sure he's been yearning for a long time now. If Deanna wasnt the one for him, I'm sure Jason would have left to be with his son. But his feelings for her started growing, and he would have been a fool not to explore that. Jason made sure his son was well taken care of by family and kept him close as he could with phone calls. It's a fact that he is a damn good and loving father. It's 6 weeks that could give them a family, not 6 years..and I'm sure he did it for Ty as much as himself.

AMEN TO THAT!!

[talldede]

Originally Posted by appiah01

I also don't have a problem with it. I come from a family that has done foster care for over 20 years. We have had children who have been physically and sexually abused, neglected, left homeless, etc. I've seen really bad parents and parents who love their children but don't have the means to care for them. That's really disturbing to me. Ty seems well adjusted and very very loved.

I am an attorney. At large law firms there are people who literally work anywhere from 70-100 hours a week. Technically they are present in their children's lives but work dictates that in many ways they aren't. My own father worked upwards of 60 hours a week as a machinist when I was growing up so that my mother could stay home and so that we could have a great middle class life. Was he highly physically present- not really but I never had a doubt that my father loved me. He also went away for 3 weeks sometimes when he would go home (he is from West Africa). I never felt neglected by my father. In fact I am nothing if not a daddy's girl to this day despite his absences. There are also many children who go away to summer camp or to stay with their out of state grandparents for 4 - 6 weeks or even an entire summer. Rarely are their parents accused of being bad parents for sending their children away.

I think parenting is definitely an imprecise science and that love covers a multitude of perceived sins. I have no doubt the people in Jason's life encouraged him to do this for himself and his happiness because a happy Jason will certainly make for a happy Ty. It may be improbable that love can last after this show but Jason seems to have a good head on his shoulders and also seems intuitive. If he did not feel that remaining away from his son would pay off with another person who would love Ty, in the form of Deanna, or if Ty sounded unhappy or distressed in any of their phone conversations, my guess is he would have left and returned home.

Perfect! Thanks for sharing.

[Spoil Me]

Originally Posted by minime
Yes, but there is a difference between being a man and a human being and deciding to date again, and being the kind of man and human being that takes to traveling to a different state for a possibility of 6 weeks, where you won't have physical contact with your son, in order to date. I guess I will just never warm to that guy because, even though I am sure his son is being well cared for, it just strikes me as weird that this was even an option for Jason.

I don't know - everyone has their opinions on child nurturing, and I am not going to get into what is definitely right or wrong, but that whole thing just creeps me out a little bit.

All you have to do is take a look at the preview for the home town date where you see Jason & Ty running into each others arms. You can hear Ty shout DADDY - from the little I have been able to see of their interaction, Ty comes across as incredibly well loved.

Just take a look at Jason's face whenever he speaks about Ty - the love he has for his son is clearly written all over his face.

His life doesn't stop just because he is a single dad and being a single dad doesn't mean that he isn't entitled to find a partner to enrich the life he has with his son.

I am sitting at work, on a conference call and instead of paying attention to what is being said, I am here - Oy vey do I have a problem

[minime]

Originally Posted by Spoil Me

All you have to do is take a look at the preview for the home town date where you see Jason & Ty running into each others arms. You can hear Ty shout DADDY - from the little I have been able to see of their interaction, Ty comes across as incredibly well loved.

Just take a look at Jason's face whenever he speaks about Ty - the love he has for his son is clearly written all over his face.

Just because he is a single dad, doesn't mean that his life is over and that he isn't entitled to find a partner to enrich the life he has with his son.

I am sitting at work, on a conference call and instead of paying attention to what is being said, I am here - Oy vey do I have a problem

Yes, but can we be honest about realizing that there is a huge difference between dating again as a single parent and going on a reality tv show to date as a single parent?

There is nothing that I have said that implies that I believe a parent should give up their life, forget about dating, and only be a parent. That isn't what this is about at all. I think we can stop eluding to the "he can still have a life even though he's a parent" fact, because that is not the point I am making.

Eh, this isn't really a spoiler, though, and probably belongs on another thread.

[Shannonm93]

Originally Posted by minime

Yes, but can we be honest about realizing that there is a huge difference between dating again as a single parent and going on a reality tv show to date as a single parent?

There is nothing that I have said that implies that I believe a parent should give up their life, forget about dating, and only be a parent. That isn't what this is about at all. I think we can stop eluding to the "he can still have a life even though he's a parent" fact, because that is not the point I am making.

Eh, this isn't really a spoiler, though, and probably belongs on another thread.

Absolutely there is a huge difference, but Jason clearly saw something in De that he was attracted to thus prompting him to e-mail the producers on his own (nobody nominated him which is usually how it is done ... he contact them himself) about the show and about her. Sure he could have found and dated a woman in Seattle, but he obviously saw something in her that got his attention and made him want to do this. Maybe I'm a bit gullible to say and believe this, but I believe De & Jason are soulmates and if this was how they were destined to meet, then this was how they were destined to meet. It's not an ideal way to meet someone given that it did take him away from his son (which was clearly difficult for him) and given the show's track record, but maybe it was just meant to be.

[CoolCruiser]

Let's face it.
Jason just IS a wonderful person.
He exudes love.

I have no questions about whether Ty is loved... He IS loved!
And Dee would do well to count her blessings for snagging a guy as great as Jason...He has more than enough love to share for the three of them.

Sure he'll have flaws... we all do, but it is obvious that Jason brings a healthy maturity to the table. A rare find these days.

Her mom would be so pleased.

The eyes don't lie. The eyes are the mirror of the soul.
His eyes speak volumes about who the inner Jason is.

Dee has found herself a TREASURE...or should I say that the treasure found her

[missdaisy]

Originally Posted by appiah01

I also don't have a problem with it. I come from a family that has done foster care for over 20 years. We have had children who have been physically and sexually abused, neglected, left homeless, etc. I've seen really bad parents and parents who love their children but don't have the means to care for them. That's really disturbing to me. Ty seems well adjusted and very very loved.

I am an attorney. At large law firms there are people who literally work anywhere from 70-100 hours a week. Technically they are present in their children's lives but work dictates that in many ways they aren't. My own father worked upwards of 60 hours a week as a machinist when I was growing up so that my mother could stay home and so that we could have a great middle class life. Was he highly physically present- not really but I never had a doubt that my father loved me. He also went away for 3 weeks sometimes when he would go home (he is from West Africa). I never felt neglected by my father. In fact I am nothing if not a daddy's girl to this day despite his absences. There are also many children who go away to summer camp or to stay with their out of state grandparents for 4 - 6 weeks or even an entire summer. Rarely are their parents accused of being bad parents for sending their children away.

I think parenting is definitely an imprecise science and that love covers a multitude of perceived sins. I have no doubt the people in Jason's life encouraged him to do this for himself and his happiness because a happy Jason will certainly make for a happy Ty. It may be improbable that love can last after this show but Jason seems to have a good head on his shoulders and also seems intuitive. If he did not feel that remaining away from his son would pay off with another person who would love Ty, in the form of Deanna, or if Ty sounded unhappy or distressed in any of their phone conversations, my guess is he would have left and returned home.

well said

I am looking forward to seeing Jason, DeAnna and Ty.... and seeing De interact with Jason's family...AND I can't wait for him to meet De's family!!

[cantstopwatchin]

Originally Posted by bamabrain

Also, the DHs have been trained and domesticated for viewing the show. They're not quite the wildebeests butting heads on the Serengeti of the show, though they could go feral at any time.

LOL- that's for sure. DH listens while on his laptop and always picks out when PIs or unseen sayings have been spliced together, which always cracks me up b/c he swears that he's not interested...

[natashapierre]

Originally Posted by K9Mom

That does not bother me in the least, especially because HE is the one that wrote and applied for the show himself after seeing DeAnna on the Bach. I believe something spoke to his heart while watching her and therefore urged him to apply for the show. I have no worries that Ty was well taken care of by loved ones during Jason's absence...and I am sure that Jason was torn up about being away from Ty for that long (we heard him say that he did not know how he could do it). And wlastly, with great reward comes great risk...what better "great reward" than finding a loving step-mom for Ty, even if that means being apart for possibly 6 weeks.

It is overwhelmingly obvious that Jason is a GREAT Dad!

What kind of dad is he if DeAnna comes out to Seattle for a while, gets involved with the two of them, and then realizes that, no, this ain't for her? And then not only Jason gets dumped but Ty as well.

Seems to me that if that happens he'll look like a dad who is basically a great guy and clearly really loves his son but showed very poor judgment in this case.

Count me among those who think this was a bit of a mistake on Jason's part. But that's because I really really don't think that DeAnna has a clue what she's getting into with being a stepmother in a ready-made family. I think she's carrying way too much unacknowledged painful baggage of her own to handle that situation and that she'll find this out fairly soon. I think her life experience up to now has made her become a control freak in order to cope with it, and I think few control freaks can handle 3-year-old stepchildren, even with the best will and belief in the world that they will be able to (as I believe DeAnna has.)

ETA: I like Jason a *lot,* by the way. He's absolutely my favorite of the remaining guys and I've liked him from the beginning. I like what we see of him and DeAnna together, too. But I do think he's made an error in judgment in this case.