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Old 05-31-2008, 12:03 PM   #1351
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I was able to locate where they are hitting golf balls..it is at the golf course where Jason used to be a pro...it is on Lake Washington...so I pulled up shots of what people wear at Lake Washington during the different time periods...

The week before filming - everyone was in sweatshirts at the least and some were even in heavy jackets...I have to do a shadow analysis to figure out about what time of day it was...

the week of HTDs everyone was in heavy winter jackets and hats and gloves

the week after filming ended...spring/summer clothes and even waterskiing in the lake...

I did notice the tatoos and he had them in all the shots - even golfing (and he is a left handed golfer - wonder if Jason is - although I don't think so b/c his glove was on his left hand which is the appropriate hand for a right handed golfer) My kids are addicted to the tatoos...so that could go either way...

one thing I REALLY noticed...we all fell in love with Jason as he cried at the thought of leaving Ty...cut to the shot of him telling Ty goodbye...not a tear in his eye...so either that was not the real goodbye (and he said goodbye privately) or it was not a real goodbye b/c they were filming it after the fact or Jason did a really good job of holding it together for Ty....

OK - a man just jogged by my house...old and not very muscular with no shirt...why can't Jason just take a jog around my block?
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:22 PM   #1352
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I was able to locate where they are hitting golf balls..it is at the golf course where Jason used to be a pro...it is on Lake Washington...so I pulled up shots of what people wear at Lake Washington during the different time periods...

The week before filming - everyone was in sweatshirts at the least and some were even in heavy jackets...I have to do a shadow analysis to figure out about what time of day it was...

the week of HTDs everyone was in heavy winter jackets and hats and gloves

the week after filming ended...spring/summer clothes and even waterskiing in the lake...

I did notice the tatoos and he had them in all the shots - even golfing (and he is a left handed golfer - wonder if Jason is - although I don't think so b/c his glove was on his left hand which is the appropriate hand for a right handed golfer) My kids are addicted to the tatoos...so that could go either way...

one thing I REALLY noticed...we all fell in love with Jason as he cried at the thought of leaving Ty...cut to the shot of him telling Ty goodbye...not a tear in his eye...so either that was not the real goodbye (and he said goodbye privately) or it was not a real goodbye b/c they were filming it after the fact or Jason did a really good job of holding it together for Ty....

OK - a man just jogged by my house...old and not very muscular with no shirt...why can't Jason just take a jog around my block?
Cape..is it that Lakeview Golf & Country Club location?
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:33 PM   #1353
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I noticed the crystal ball too and wondered if it were a "clue".
Did you notice when they focus on the crystal ball that it's showing De and Jason's reflections?
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:35 PM   #1354
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Who knew the scenes I railed against would become a sleuther's bread and butter. Terrific job everyone...you are within a hair's breath for nailing the time frame of filming the scenes with his son. Kudos on all your deductive work!
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Old 05-31-2008, 01:05 PM   #1355
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She could well be on to something. It was 90 degrees on May 17. I haven't looked at those scenes again to try to get an idea of which driving range they were at. Some of them are heated so it wouldn't be that unusual for him to let Ty take off his sweatshirt after taking some swings and then put it back on later.

The trees usually get their leaves back any time from Mid-March to Late April depending on the year and the tree.
I also went back and looked at the video and it isnt a golf course, I think that is one of the parks around kirkland. maybe juanita or waverly park. I looks like he just had a mat and used it as a green to tee off.
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Old 05-31-2008, 01:34 PM   #1356
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It is the Inglewood Golf Club...on yahoo maps you can see the artificial tee boxes, the circular driveway and yellow house...

also - the tees are outside so they are definately not at heated tees...

Jason is also in shorts and short sleeve shirt...it could NOT have been during HTDs - it was WAY too cold that week...so either they shot it before filming and just braved the cold - or it was shot after Jason came home...I do think that Jason did the PI before he left in his pink shirt..
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I might be missing something, but to me your discovery pretty much confirms Jason as F1
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Old 05-31-2008, 01:59 PM   #1358
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here is the golf satelite shot - I don't have a screenshot of them at the course...

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Old 05-31-2008, 02:06 PM   #1359
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Great thinking RacingGirl!

I think Fleiss knew Dee was digging Jason and maybe created all these little hints!



And to you too!

OMG...this is all so exciting...everyone working together to figure this out. Cape..just incredible that those scenes were right there the whole time, and you are the only one able to put it together. INCREDIBLE...and as Suza said, thanks for sharing the information

Marlap...great catch on the "snowy and sledding" conversation with Ty and Jason!!!!! Just more proof!

Racing Girl...I love the whole crystal ball tie in!!! I would never have picked up on that! Well done!

And the one thing I noticed was that on the Magic date Jason was shown stating that he loves surprises, which DeAnna had already spoken of that in the Premiere episode to some of the men. And also...when DeDe and Jason "disappeared" and were alone, and when they rejoined the men, the men all commented on the length of time they were gone!!! I wonder if perhaps they got a lot more than the usual 10 minutes alone time in such a scenario, and the men noticed it and commented. Just my thoughts. Well done everyone...how exciting.

And to bizbachfan...sorry, but there is no way that I would be wearing shorts and no top jogging in 50 degree weather. I am from Canada in an even colder climate than Seattle, and we certainly do not find 50 degrees to be shorts weather....especially in the damp cold and chill of Seattle. We wait til it gets into the high 70's, and 80's before the shorts come out. Thanks
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Old 05-31-2008, 02:20 PM   #1360
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WOW! You guys are awesome! I just hope you guys are right!
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