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Old 06-10-2008, 11:30 AM   #951
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I so totally agree. I really feel she has fallen in love with Graham. She may come to love Jason which is great, but not the same. This is why sometimes this show can be frustrating in its format. I want to see two people fall in love and try to make it in the real world. I do not want to see people getting their hearts broken or not taking a chance on their feelings because they have to go through "the process".
wow such good insights! couldn't have said it better! thanks guys...that's exactly what I was thinking about 'true love'. I guess De is actually searching for 'A Husband' not just true love. She is very clear that she does not want to be rejected again.
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:57 AM   #952
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Graham was not emotionally prepared for the show. Whether it is issues with the past relationship, his not being sure of who he is, or his inability to open up to people, the bottom line is he should not be there. I agree with Dee...he signed up to date 1 woman with 25 boyfriends. In that situation you have to come outside yourself, outside your comfort zone, and put your heart on the line knowing that you could get rejected in the end. It frustrates me to see Dee chasing after him when there are other guys there willing and able to be open with their feelings. Yes there is chemistry, probably more on her part than his, but chemistry doesn't make a relationship it just adds to it. Graham is so caught up in his feelings he really doesn't take a minute to remember that SHE HAS BEEN THERE. He cares about his feelings of jealousy or insecurity and doesn't care that she did go through the exact same process and that she is doing everything can can to be truthful and honest with everyone. This isn't an ideal situation for anyone, but the other guys are managing to overcome their jealousy to take the time they have with her and make the most of it. The other guys even overcome Dee being so obvisously attracted to Graham and how she let's him get away with not expressing his feelings like everyone else. Graham should have bowed out a lot earlier than F4 because he was not prepared to open up to her.
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:57 AM   #953
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I wonder if this was his ex...I found these posted on another site...and they were taken this past New Year's....He looks really happy around her...
Isn't his ex from All my children? In the same channel?
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:19 PM   #954
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Ok I have been trying to find it in the 89 pages of posts but I can't seem to find out how you all know that Graham decides to go home before the F3? Did you hear it somewhere? Thanks!!!
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:20 PM   #955
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I don't know if he dated Amanda from AMC because she just broke up with her fiance. But they certainly could have at some point, although I would doubt it was for very long.
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I happen to think that "true" love is the love that develops over time, not the "in love" that comes from the initial attraction. I've never been one to believe in soul mates or love at first sight. My husband knows very well that he isn't the "type" I usually go for, that initially I didn't think much of him, that there were others that I had more chemistry with from first impression.

He doesn't care. He's the one I married eventually, and we are forever.

That's kind of how I see Jason handling it if he's F1. He's been married, he has a child.....I think Jason has a perspective that is long-term instead of short term, and I think he'll handle the Graham attraction just fine as he watches the show, if they talk about it and have faith in what they have developed....again, if he's the F1.

That said, I have to agree that I miss the whole Meredith/Ian experience where the fireworks started early, obviously, and lasted to the end. But life isn't always like that.
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I happen to think that "true" love is the love that develops over time, not the "in love" that comes from the initial attraction. I've never been one to believe in soul mates or love at first sight. My husband knows very well that he isn't the "type" I usually go for, that initially I didn't think much of him, that there were others that I had more chemistry with from first impression.

He doesn't care. He's the one I married eventually, and we are forever.

That's kind of how I see Jason handling it if he's F1. He's been married, he has a child.....I think Jason has a perspective that is long-term instead of short term, and I think he'll handle the Graham attraction just fine as he watches the show, if they talk about it and have faith in what they have developed....again, if he's the F1.

That said, I have to agree that I miss the whole Meredith/Ian experience where the fireworks started early, obviously, and lasted to the end. But life isn't always like that.
It's always possible (and highly probable) that the editing has cut out many romantic moments between D and Jason and is focusing/adding most of the Graham romantic moments. That is Graham's story line-the lust/hot feelings, so they need to include all they can while they also need to hide/edit those feelings for the eventual F1--if not Graham. Whoever is F1 will be ok with it and knows what really has happened behind the scene, IMO.
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I so totally agree. I really feel she has fallen in love with Graham. She may come to love Jason which is great, but not the same. This is why sometimes this show can be frustrating in its format. I want to see two people fall in love and try to make it in the real world. I do not want to see people getting their hearts broken or not taking a chance on their feelings because they have to go through "the process".
I don't think she's fallen in love with Graham - it's physical attraction and not based on any real interaction or conversation. She basically "has the hots" for him and is only after him because he's playing hard to get. (for some reason us girls seem to want the guy that doesn't want us..... why do/did we do that to ourselves )
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I happen to think that "true" love is the love that develops over time, not the "in love" that comes from the initial attraction. I've never been one to believe in soul mates or love at first sight. My husband knows very well that he isn't the "type" I usually go for, that initially I didn't think much of him, that there were others that I had more chemistry with from first impression.

He doesn't care. He's the one I married eventually, and we are forever.

That's kind of how I see Jason handling it if he's F1. He's been married, he has a child.....I think Jason has a perspective that is long-term instead of short term, and I think he'll handle the Graham attraction just fine as he watches the show, if they talk about it and have faith in what they have developed....again, if he's the F1.

That said, I have to agree that I miss the whole Meredith/Ian experience where the fireworks started early, obviously, and lasted to the end. But life isn't always like that.
I married the guy that I thought was the best suited for me and i thought with my head. I am happy, but there were never those crazy, intense feelings and maybe we are okay with that because he may feel the same way.
I often wish we had that, and when I do see people with that I am envious.
I do believe in soulmates, I do believe that there may not be just one soulmate out there for you. I don't know why I feel so strongly for these two, because DeAnna was not my favorite on the Bachelor. I guess it is Graham that I am drawn to and their undeniable connection. I have never seen a couple on here with this much potential and not make it to the final 1.
I just hope all are happy. I would love to see a big surprise, like others are wishing for, in the end somehow her being with Graham.
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Interesting to read all the Graham posts and to get the feeling that there are many opinions as to what is actually going on between these two! I happen to be in the camp that doesn't see a mutual attraction/romance happening between these two. I see lust and desire on DeAnna's side and fear/interest on Graham's side. Graham was very honest in his not kissing response to D and I absolutely respect it! He seems like a decent man who is caught up in something he is unsure of, and D is trying to push it into something more.
I never developed a preference for Graham in this show. He has seemed petulant this whole series. His hissy fit on last night's show is just part of the personna I have picked up on. He is inexperienced in relationships - he admitted this. This format has got to be the most frustrating thing for him, and not the best place to learn how to be in a mutual relationship when there are more than 2 involved.
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