Graham **SPOILERS** - Page 94

brandtclan · 06-10-2008, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cupcakes

I wonder if this was his ex...I found these posted on another site...and they were taken this past New Year's....He looks really happy around her...

She looks just like Chrishell Stause from All My Children. I'll try and post this link to her bio and photo.

It won't let me post the link, so just go to the ABC website and go to the All My Children page.

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Amberish · 06-10-2008, 09:55 AM

My brother was an athlete during his 20s, though highly disciplined in nearly every area, never had a serious relationship worth mentioning until he met his wife.

She was different than the other women he dated and pretty much set him straight in that she showed him how to have a relationship.

Nonetheless, they are happily married, have two nearly grown kids and their relationship works.

Broadway · 06-10-2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by palmasola

Were the pictures the ones with the soap opera chick?

I've only looked at this last page of posts, but those latest pics definitely look like Chrishelle Stause from AMC.

I'll have to peek to see if there were discussions about them having dated?

goldie2 · 06-10-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Amberish

My brother was an athlete during his 20s, though highly disciplined in nearly every area, never had a serious relationship worth mentioning until he met his wife.

She was different than the other women he dated and pretty much set him straight in that she showed him how to have a relationship.

Nonetheless, they are happily married, have two nearly grown kids and their relationship works.

Agree with you completely..I have known many guys ,athletes who waited until their 30's to date seriously..way to busy and commited on their sport, they went out,etc..but nothing serious..

I am not sure why some are taking this so out of the ordinary that he hasn't had a lot of serious relationships..

had we known she picked him as the F1..we would certainly be celebrating this about him..instead of him being a womanizer or something...but instead it is a character flaw for him now...sad...

these guys I know wound up getting serious and married after they had settled down in one place and had finished their athletic careers and were not moving around so much...

They are the most awesome,loyal and wonderful guys,very commited and certainly took their time in finding the right one..

Which I am sure is similiar to what Graham is doing...JMO

Secret · 06-10-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bachlorfan

Not me. I think she just has the hots for him, I wouldn't say the "L: word at all. Someone has to get the "Chemistry" edit , ala Bevin.

Well, I agree with you, too. I think Deanna is very attracted to him physically, but emotionally he's not giving her anything back except being cranky and needy and is kind of mean about it, IMO. I don't see big or little love there, at all, from either side. I see lust from Deanna and an uncomfortable man in Graham.

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Probably won't be a popular opinion, but all I see with Graham and Dee is a physical attraction on De's behalf. Each season there is someone the Bachelor is highly attracted to, and each season we scream at our screens "think with your big head, instead of your little soldier"!

Graham might be a hotmess, but I'm just not seeing any strong emotional connection here. And, considering Graham has issues he needs to work through, I sincerely hope De does not show up in NYC......

Hopefully, Deanna thinks with her head and not with her hormones coming up pretty soon. I know we've heard that he leaves on his own, but I'd like to think she realizes that it was for the best. "Love" doesn't have to be angst and torture. I see far too much angst in this Graham situation.

I really, really disliked the way he "handled" Deanna in the whole episode. As I said elsewhere, I came away from rewatching the episode feeling like he was actually, intentionally or not, manipulating her. He knows she's drawn to him, so he went out of his way to make her feel bad about it all. Talk about "not fair" - he knew what he signed up for when he went on the show. I guess he took Deanna's advice to heart - if you can't handle it, go home.

procheervet · 06-10-2008, 10:27 AM

Found this on Brian's website - no wonder I think Graham is amazing..

Saturday afternoon I wrote a 5 round workout using Graham's playing cards to randomly order the number of reps per set with 5 cards per round. During the first round Jeremy stopped, during the 3rd Shawn had enough but in the 5th Grahamn and I were still going, almost unable to use our arms. He looked up, barely able to utter a word and said: "It is in these moments where we seperate ourselves from the old and forge a new identity. We can choose to become better, stronger, healthier. We can push through the tough time and come out a different person on the other side. Right now we have a choice to either stay the same or to grow both physically and emotionally." Needless to say our 5th round was better than the first...

bizbachfan · 06-10-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by procheervet

Found this on Brian's website - no wonder I think Graham is amazing..

Saturday afternoon I wrote a 5 round workout using Graham's playing cards to randomly order the number of reps per set with 5 cards per round. During the first round Jeremy stopped, during the 3rd Shawn had enough but in the 5th Grahamn and I were still going, almost unable to use our arms. He looked up, barely able to utter a word and said: "It is in these moments where we seperate ourselves from the old and forge a new identity. We can choose to become better, stronger, healthier. We can push through the tough time and come out a different person on the other side. Right now we have a choice to either stay the same or to grow both physically and emotionally." Needless to say our 5th round was better than the first...

good find! he is a cutie

albean99 · 06-10-2008, 10:31 AM

I don't agree that Graham was manipulating at all. I just think he can't handle the feelings he's having and the situation he's in. Normally they'd be just getting to know each other and not worrying about expressing feelings and making commitments but this is anything but normal. I doubt that Graham going in thought he'd be where he is right now and I think he's fighting it. I'm not sure why he either decides to leave or she sends him home but it's kind of sad not to know where it could have gone.

musicmom · 06-10-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by albean99

I don't agree that Graham was manipulating at all. I just think he can't handle the feelings he's having and the situation he's in. Normally they'd be just getting to know each other and not worrying about expressing feelings and making commitments but this is anything but normal. I doubt that Graham going in thought he'd be where he is right now and I think he's fighting it. I'm not sure why he either decides to leave or she sends him home but it's kind of sad not to know where it could have gone.

I don't think it ever could have gone anywhere. D and Graham are both great people, and she is wildly attracted to him physically, but they do no work well together. She becomes needy and suspicious, he becomes withdrawn, and nothing can change that. Even if he was more into her and able to put his all into the situation, their relationship would still be unhealthy and painful. It's a mystery why some people don't work well together, but that's the way it is with Graham and D. I don't think there is anything to mourn. It looked initially like it had alot of potential, but it is quickly falling apart.

bamabrain · 06-10-2008, 10:41 AM

As I've said, the Graham-De relationship is the most comparable, in my opinion, to Tessa-Andy. Imagine that show if TPTB had not been able to talk Tessa into staying. (We know Tessa wanted to leave that show and she was indeed enticed to stay. If Graham left of his own volition, going on the speculation that others have posted, he was not, for whatever reasons, enticed to stay.)

What some see as "off," "miscommunication," I see as possibly the realities of a relationship broadcast nationally when one of the two is not comfortable with that disclosure. And you can bet that Graham's edit would be different if he were in the F2. Part of the "offness" we're sensing may have to do with the edit Graham received after the fact.

However, at this point, I am not going so far as to declare that De's F1 was, thus, a default choice. We probably all have that Great Love in our pasts. Different time, different place, and who knows what might have happened? But we go with what is, and, if we're whole people, we go with our hearts and our heads. The Great Love sometimes doesn't make the Best Marriage. I am keeping an open mind.

06-10-2008, 09:55 AM	#932
Amberish FORT Fan Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 232	Re: Graham SPOILERS My brother was an athlete during his 20s, though highly disciplined in nearly every area, never had a serious relationship worth mentioning until he met his wife. She was different than the other women he dated and pretty much set him straight in that she showed him how to have a relationship. Nonetheless, they are happily married, have two nearly grown kids and their relationship works.

06-10-2008, 10:27 AM	#936
procheervet FORT Fogey Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: A Beach in Florida Posts: 883	Re: Graham SPOILERS Found this on Brian's website - no wonder I think Graham is amazing.. Saturday afternoon I wrote a 5 round workout using Graham's playing cards to randomly order the number of reps per set with 5 cards per round. During the first round Jeremy stopped, during the 3rd Shawn had enough but in the 5th Grahamn and I were still going, almost unable to use our arms. He looked up, barely able to utter a word and said: "It is in these moments where we seperate ourselves from the old and forge a new identity. We can choose to become better, stronger, healthier. We can push through the tough time and come out a different person on the other side. Right now we have a choice to either stay the same or to grow both physically and emotionally." Needless to say our 5th round was better than the first...

06-10-2008, 10:31 AM	#938
albean99 FORT Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 671	Re: Graham SPOILERS I don't agree that Graham was manipulating at all. I just think he can't handle the feelings he's having and the situation he's in. Normally they'd be just getting to know each other and not worrying about expressing feelings and making commitments but this is anything but normal. I doubt that Graham going in thought he'd be where he is right now and I think he's fighting it. I'm not sure why he either decides to leave or she sends him home but it's kind of sad not to know where it could have gone.

06-10-2008, 10:41 AM	#940
bamabrain Bright Blue Dot Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in a Really Red State Posts: 2,616	Re: Graham SPOILERS As I've said, the Graham-De relationship is the most comparable, in my opinion, to Tessa-Andy. Imagine that show if TPTB had not been able to talk Tessa into staying. (We know Tessa wanted to leave that show and she was indeed enticed to stay. If Graham left of his own volition, going on the speculation that others have posted, he was not, for whatever reasons, enticed to stay.) What some see as "off," "miscommunication," I see as possibly the realities of a relationship broadcast nationally when one of the two is not comfortable with that disclosure. And you can bet that Graham's edit would be different if he were in the F2. Part of the "offness" we're sensing may have to do with the edit Graham received after the fact. However, at this point, I am not going so far as to declare that De's F1 was, thus, a default choice. We probably all have that Great Love in our pasts. Different time, different place, and who knows what might have happened? But we go with what is, and, if we're whole people, we go with our hearts and our heads. The Great Love sometimes doesn't make the Best Marriage. I am keeping an open mind.