Graham **SPOILERS**

[mindy384]

Originally Posted by just2relax

I think Graham, both physically and emotionally, is exactly the type of guy Deanna has always gone for, in the past. He reminds me so much of Brad, it is scary. And someone from GA said he looks exactly like De's ex boyfriend. The question is, does Deanna recognize the pattern and is she ready to break out of her old pattern?? People are comfortable with the familar even when the familar always hurts. She did say she learned a lot about herself doing the show. I'm curious to see how she handles Graham leaving.

I agree. Graham looks like Brad too. Plus hes got the whole 'you have to chase me' thing going on... which, no matter what, most girls like (because we dont always want what we can easily have!).

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[Phyllie]

Originally Posted by 2observe

I've now come to the conclusion that DeAnna has already fallen in love with Graham. We also know that Graham doesn't make it to F1. So, whomever she chooses for F1 will be by default. jmo

I agree that it certainly appears that way.

So much is being made about Graham not opening up, or not playing the game, but I think Deanna is different with him. She is testing him. Holding him to a higher standard. With the other guys she is in control and confident of them wanting her to pick them. With Graham she seems to be more worried about him turning her down.

To me, Graham seems like he would opt out if he wasn't into DeAnna so I think he's definitely interested, but she is so intent on nailing him to the wall, she isn't giving them the time to really interact.

I hope they continue to focus on their interaction until he leaves, and that they tell us WHY he leaves because I'm finding it the most fascinating dynamic I've seen on this show in a while.

[Lifeisgood2]

Originally Posted by Gilmoregirl

In fact, I thought (don't quote me here) she noted during a PI about Fred that he was genuine and open in the way she wanted the one she was in love with (Graham) to be.

She actually said:
He said all the things that I want someone I am in love with to say to me.

I think she is just generalizing about the things he said being ideal to what she wants to hear, not referencing any certain individual or referencing that is even in-love at this time.

[pbmax]

Originally Posted by Gilmoregirl

I think it's mutual. It's just not playing out the same way for each of them. Too bad they both weren't able to walk off the show and figure it out. Deanna is committed to this ridiculous process and wants Graham to play the same game. He on the other hand appears to be surprised by his own feelings, the process, and the intense possessiveness/jealously that ensues. I think he is trying to protect himself while she wants him to throw caution to the wind. In 6 weeks time, I can't imagine that their feelings resolve so that Deanna can really fall in love with one of the other guys.

In fact, I thought (don't quote me here) she noted during a PI about Fred that he was genuine and open in the way she wanted the one she was in love with (Graham) to be.

Some intense heat between these two....I see her in New York in a couple of months!

I so agree with you. I think Graham feelings for Dee are the same as hers, he's just having a hard time dealing with the guys being with his woman. I see the look on his face when the guys talk about her. He doesn't want to be just one of the guys.

[Zao]

Originally Posted by 2observe

I've now come to the conclusion that DeAnna has already fallen in love with Graham. We also know that Graham doesn't make it to F1. So, whomever she chooses for F1 will be by default. jmo

Not just your opinion, but mine too. I have a feeling once he leaves, it'll be very hard to watch. Not just for the audience, but also for whoever is F1.

I really believe that as real as she is, and as true as she wants to be, she came into the process with the intent to find a husband and she will convince herself however well she can that he is there. How will she do that? By forcing true love. End result? Disappoiment because everyone knows you can't force true love. She may be happy with the F1, and she may love the F1, but love and being in love are a whole different thing.

[murphytoo]

Originally Posted by simplechef

If Graham stayed, the other guys didn't have a chance. Deanna was blinded by her attraction.

Graham is a hottie and they probably could have had something, but I believe Graham learned in all of this that he's not a sharer... he just couldn't get past the other guys being with Deanna.

ITA with you Chef. You nailed both sides of this - Graham and Deanna.

[Phyllie]

I read this on Brian's website, and it made me think that there is a WHOLE lot more to Graham than the show is letting us see...(It's a caption under a picture of Brian's wrist wearing two bands, one with 4sicks.com on it.)

I wear these bands to remind me that I can choose to take pride in forging ahead during the tough moments. Graham gave me the blue one during the show and it reminds me of this day:

Saturday afternoon I wrote a 5 round workout using Graham's playing cards to randomly order the number of reps per set with 5 cards per round. During the first round Jeremy stopped, during the 3rd Shawn had enough but in the 5th Grahamn and I were still going, almost unable to use our arms. He looked up, barely able to utter a word and said: "It is in these moments where we seperate ourselves from the old and forge a new identity. We can choose to become better, stronger, healthier. We can push through the tough time and come out a different person on the other side. Right now we have a choice to either stay the same or to grow both physically and emotionally." Needless to say our 5th round was better than the first...

[JoLena]

Originally Posted by 2observe

I've now come to the conclusion that DeAnna has already fallen in love with Graham. We also know that Graham doesn't make it to F1. So, whomever she chooses for F1 will be by default. jmo

Not me. I think she just has the hots for him, I wouldn't say the "L: word at all. Someone has to get the "Chemistry" edit , ala Bevin.

[yeisha]

Originally Posted by Phyllie

I read this on Brian's website, and it made me think that there is a WHOLE lot more to Graham than the show is letting us see...(It's a caption under a picture of Brian's wrist wearing two bands, one with 4sicks.com on it.)

thats very interesting Phyllie, thanks for bringing this over. I really do sense that Graham is a great guy and he has a lot of layers to his personality. He is the type of person that needs time to get to know someone and vice versa. This type of speed dating process is just not for him. Which is too bad for both him and De.

[NoLongerALurker]

Originally Posted by yeisha

thats very interesting Phyllie, thanks for bringing this over. I really do sense that Graham is a great guy and he has a lot of layers to his personality. He is the type of person that needs time to get to know someone and vice versa. This type of speed dating process is just not for him. Which is too bad for both him and De.

And I think that since she is really pushing him, it must seem all the more unnatural to him and make it worse. Their communication is really off, IMO, and since solid relationships rely on good communication I don't think things between them could really ever work out.

I think Dee ends up realizing this, but given the guys she chooses to continue to the end with, I don't think she "settles" for a "consolation prize." Mainly because Graham isn't enough of a winner on all the levels he needs to be, to really make a strong enough connection with her.