Graham **SPOILERS**

[goldie2]

Originally Posted by appiah01

Undoubtedly Graham is hot and she is clearly physically attracted to him but I haven't heard her make any positive comments about any of his other qualities beyond that. It is obvious she is also attracted to other guys (Jeremy and Jason) based upon the touching and kissing that occurs. However the difference between those 2 and Graham is that she has actually commented on personality characteristics and qualities of the other 2 men. It seems that Deanna and Graham really want there to be more than a physical attraction but they don't seem to be able to communicate very well. They don't seem to have had a conversation about anything other than the desire to get to know each other better on either their 1 on 1 date or last night. She has spoken with both Jeremy and Jason about much deeper issues thus far.

Deanna seems serious to me about finding a husband. She seems mature enough to dig deeper than a physical attraction and see if there is more substance to the relationship. Graham just doesn't seem there yet. He's clearly trying but they really do not seem to be at the same place in their lives. In other circumstances or in other stages of her life she may be willing to go there and wait for him but after Brad and with other viable options, I could see her letting him go and allowing her relationships with men who are more at a place where they are ready and able to jump in to deepen.

What a shame for her then I say..

if she could not have waited to explore things more..since he goes at a different pace...5 -6 weeks is not a good amount of time to know any of these men..given the track record of the show..they need some time after to really develop things more..no matter who she chooses..

I do think they are playing up the "hot" factor as to make it like that is the main thing they have..if you watch them talk and interact it is much deeper..more serious and intense..

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[procheervet]

I don't deny she is connecting with the other guys in different ways, what I am saying is I don't see passion and that is a necessary component. Don't get me wrong, Jason seems like a decent guy, but she doesn't have that look in her eye when she is with him, yes she is comfortable, relaxed, and it is pleasant, but sometimes you need that HOT too! Also, we have Deanna, who does not want to be far from her family in GA and Jason who cannot relocate from Seattle, WA. Even if he is her F1, that is a tremendous hurdle that they make not be able to overcome.

[Capegal]

Originally Posted by procheervet

While I am resigned to the fact that Graham is not F1, I can't help but here her comments about how he is "so hot" and the kiss was amazing. I haven't heard those kinds of passionate comments about any of the other guys so far. There have been comments like, nice, romantic, sweet, but not hot and amazing. It makes you wonder about her F1 being more of a consolation prize.

I absolutely don't think that Jason would be a consolation prize by any means. D may be physically attracted to Graham - comments such as hot and kiss amazing - are not what passion is all about - to me those are only physical comments - there is no depth to them at all. If D doesn't see what she needs and wants in Graham - then he is not the right guy for her.


Passion can be a slow to boil process - especially when it has depth to the soul parts and pieces - which I don't see right now with Graham - I only see the superficial type of passion - that physical call - not the soul call.

[2observe]

Did I hear DeAnna correctly? Did she tell Graham she could not marrying someone that she didn't know??? So does that mean that she knows the other guy well enough to marry???? That was a very interest comment she made. Also, Graham mentioned that DeAnna always thinks that she's right. Hmmmm....., another interesting comment.

[procheervet]

Originally Posted by Capegal

I absolutely don't think that Jason would be a consolation prize by any means. D may be physically attracted to Graham - comments such as hot and kiss amazing - are not what passion is all about - to me those are only physical comments - there is no depth to them at all. If D doesn't see what she needs and wants in Graham - then he is not the right guy for her.


Passion can be a slow to boil process - especially when it has depth to the soul parts and pieces - which I don't see right now with Graham - I only see the superficial type of passion - that physical call - not the soul call.

I agree that there has to be much more than just the physical attraction, the point I am trying to make it that the physical component is very important as well. When I see De and Graham interact I too see the awkwardness, but I read it more as there is something there and they are like schoolkids together, nervous and jittery, and that kind of thing is what "it" is all about. Granted, the comfortable soul searching relationship is also important, but I think in those really special relationships, the comfort comes later, the "it" comes first.

[MissMilano]

Originally Posted by procheervet

I agree that there has to be much more than just the physical attraction, the point I am trying to make it that the physical component is very important as well. When I see De and Graham interact I too see the awkwardness, but I read it more as there is something there and they are like schoolkids together, nervous and jittery, and that kind of thing is what "it" is all about. Granted, the comfortable soul searching relationship is also important, but I think in those really special relationships, the comfort comes later, the "it" comes first.

Procheervet, I don't disagree with what you are saying, but, I thnik that DeAnna realizes that Graham is at a different place in his life than she is. It seems as if he really has a difficult time expressing himself, especially on an emotional level. Compare what we have seen with them with what we have seen with Jeremy and Jason - they are already at a much deeper level of communication. Also, I think we began to see the true chemistry buidling between Jason and Dee last night.

I think Dee really wants to feel "it" with Graham, but comes to the realization that "it" just isn't there.

[Estella]

Originally Posted by Capegal

One thing that I considered last night - was that some of that was said in VO's - we didn't actually see her say them - she could have referred to any of the guys she has kissed by that comment about the great kiss. That comment could have referred to their 1st kiss as well. Hard to tell.

That's what I thought too... I don't think there's any way to tell what kiss with which guy she was talking about. And honestly, I can't see how she was referring to a kiss where she basically had to force the guy to kiss her as "amazing".

[ShadyLady36]

Did anyone else think that the kiss the shared at the RC seemed forced?? It didn't appear that he wanted to kiss her. Weird.

[procheervet]

I have said this before, I don't think it is a lack of emotion or of wanting to kiss Deanna, I think it is more of the awkwardness of the situation with cameras all around them and the fact that he is obviously painfully shy. Makes it all seem more real if you look at it in that perspective. That he has genuine feelings and is not "performing".

[procheervet]

Originally Posted by Estella

That's what I thought too... I don't think there's any way to tell what kiss with which guy she was talking about. And honestly, I can't see how she was referring to a kiss where she basically had to force the guy to kiss her as "amazing".

This is the second time she talks about Graham's kisses being amazing, and in the first one, she talks about how he bit her lip (omigosh) and he clearly does that again during the kiss last night, so IMO she is still talking about Graham's "amazing" kisses. And I don't think she had to force anything, he is just a painfully shy man being put in a position in which he has to kiss a woman he truly wants to kiss in front of cameras and crew members and it is probably extremely awkward. I find the fact that he is not slick and polished to be refreshingly real.