Graham **SPOILERS**

[bamabrain]

It's clear that DeAnna wants a guy who is the antithesis of Brad in the decisiveness department. In an accelerated dating situtation, I believe that it is possible to cut through the extraneous stuff more quickly to the heart of the matter and to find love. I respect DeAnna's clear resolve and firm belief that that is possible.

HOWEVER, I also find it very refreshing on a show that bases its edit on "stock" character types and simplistic storylines and plot arcs to see someone vocalize through words or behavior some discomfort with "the process," even while simultaneously keeping an open mind that the process can work. In my estimation, we've seen this enter into Fleiss's storyline to this extent only once: with Tessa. Perhaps Graham's character will be edited like Tessa's (but without the F1 outcome)? I liked Tessa a lot and I like Graham a lot as well. I find his "reserve" attractive, and a nice counterbalance to the push-up and arm wrestling contests. He's an athlete too, but without the posturing.

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[goldie2]

Originally Posted by bamabrain

It's clear that DeAnna wants a guy who is the antithesis of Brad in the decisiveness department. In an accelerated dating situtation, I believe that it is possible to cut through the extraneous stuff more quickly to the heart of the matter and to find love. I respect DeAnna's clear resolve and firm belief that that is possible.

HOWEVER, I also find it very refreshing on a show that bases its edit on "stock" character types and simplistic storylines and plot arcs to see someone vocalize through words or behavior some discomfort with "the process," even while simultaneously keeping an open mind that the process can work. In my estimation, we've seen this enter into Fleiss's storyline to this extent only once: with Tessa. Perhaps Graham's character will be edited like Tessa's (but without the F1 outcome)? I liked Tessa a lot and I like Graham a lot as well. I find his "reserve" attractive, and a nice counterbalance to the push-up and arm wrestling contests. He's an athlete too, but without the posturing.

Totally agree about the sincerity and honesty he showed about how difficult the "process" of "allowing her date all these men in front of him"is and how is really srtuggling with that..

Love them together...seems like a great guy...
What I can't understand is how that foreshadows him leaving without something happening unexpectantly taking him home on his own..
Their connection seems very emotional and at a deep level in the process ..

Very confused as to what happens with these two...

[Capegal]

Originally Posted by goldie2

Totally agree about the sincerity and honesty he showed about how difficult the "process" of "allowing her date all these men in front of him"is and how is really srtuggling with that..

Love them together...seems like a great guy...
What I can't understand is how that foreshadows him leaving without something happening unexpectantly taking him home on his own..
Their connection seems very emotional and at a deep level in the process ..

Very confused as to what happens with these two...

From what I see of these 2 - they certainly struggle too much with each other - their communication is a struggle - and D is pretty aware of that by her comments about him last night. That can really undo alot of relationships - as she has said she needs someone who she can talk to - can communicate with - etc..... and that is what she is struggleing with with Graham.

[procheervet]

While I am resigned to the fact that Graham is not F1, I can't help but here her comments about how he is "so hot" and the kiss was amazing. I haven't heard those kinds of passionate comments about any of the other guys so far. There have been comments like, nice, romantic, sweet, but not hot and amazing. It makes you wonder about her F1 being more of a consolation prize.

[musicmom]

Originally Posted by Capegal

From what I see of these 2 - they certainly struggle too much with each other - their communication is a struggle - and D is pretty aware of that by her comments about him last night. That can really undo alot of relationships - as she has said she needs someone who she can talk to - can communicate with - etc..... and that is what she is struggleing with with Graham.

I totally agree

[procheervet]

The thing about the struggle is that is what convinces me that is it real. Some of these guys seem absolutely scripted, Graham is real, his emotions are raw and he cannot always find the words.

[appiah01]

Originally Posted by procheervet

While I am resigned to the fact that Graham is not F1, I can't help but here her comments about how he is "so hot" and the kiss was amazing. I haven't heard those kinds of passionate comments about any of the other guys so far. There have been comments like, nice, romantic, sweet, but not hot and amazing. It makes you wonder about her F1 being more of a consolation prize.

Undoubtedly Graham is hot and she is clearly physically attracted to him but I haven't heard her make any positive comments about any of his other qualities beyond that. It is obvious she is also attracted to other guys (Jeremy and Jason) based upon the touching and kissing that occurs. However the difference between those 2 and Graham is that she has actually commented on personality characteristics and qualities of the other 2 men. It seems that Deanna and Graham really want there to be more than a physical attraction but they don't seem to be able to communicate very well. They don't seem to have had a conversation about anything other than the desire to get to know each other better on either their 1 on 1 date or last night. She has spoken with both Jeremy and Jason about much deeper issues thus far.

Deanna seems serious to me about finding a husband. She seems mature enough to dig deeper than a physical attraction and see if there is more substance to the relationship and it just doesn't seem there yet with Graham. He's clearly trying but they really do not seem to be at the same place in their lives. In other circumstances or in other stages of her life she may be willing to go there and wait for him but after Brad and with other viable options, I could see her letting him go and allowing her relationships with men who are more at a place where they are ready and able to jump in and have a bit more of a mature relationship deepen and grow.

[Capegal]

Originally Posted by procheervet

The thing about the struggle is that is what convinces me that is it real. Some of these guys seem absolutely scripted, Graham is real, his emotions are raw and he cannot always find the words.

I go back to what we saw/heard Ellen say tho - and both she and D are very aware of communication issues that could arise in a relationship - the need to know that someone can be there and communicate what is going on - and that is why I think D really attempts to open Graham up - or wants to at least - but she really shouldn't have to. She openly admits that communication is extremely important to her.

[TNmomof4]

Originally Posted by procheervet

While I am resigned to the fact that Graham is not F1, I can't help but here her comments about how he is "so hot" and the kiss was amazing. I haven't heard those kinds of passionate comments about any of the other guys so far. There have been comments like, nice, romantic, sweet, but not hot and amazing. It makes you wonder about her F1 being more of a consolation prize.

I don't think her F1 will be a consolation prize. I think it will more be Deanna realizing that there needs to be more than "hot, amazing...." in a relationship. I think she is giving Graham every opportunity to show that but eventually will realize the rest just isn't there with him. Too bad, he seems like a great guy, just not the guy for her, nor she for him. I really think his hesitiation is in part the process, but i think if he really was really feeling it for Deanna the process would take a back seat, as it did with Ian and Tessa.

[Capegal]

Originally Posted by procheervet

While I am resigned to the fact that Graham is not F1, I can't help but here her comments about how he is "so hot" and the kiss was amazing. I haven't heard those kinds of passionate comments about any of the other guys so far. There have been comments like, nice, romantic, sweet, but not hot and amazing. It makes you wonder about her F1 being more of a consolation prize.

One thing that I considered last night - was that some of that was said in VO's - we didn't actually see her say them - she could have referred to any of the guys she has kissed by that comment about the great kiss. That comment could have referred to their 1st kiss as well. Hard to tell.