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Old 06-18-2008, 03:03 PM   #2081
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OK. So many people seem to be questioning Graham's true intentions and character. If he was really the bad guy many are making him out to be, then explain Jesse's parting words after his 1 on 1 time with D when Graham interrupted. Here are Jesse's words, "If anyone was going to steal her, I am glad it was you." I think that Jesse is acting as a friend to Deanna in this and I don't see any romantic connection between them. If Jesse is OK with Graham stealing her when all the other guys complain about it, there must be something about G that Jesse respects and likes. The guys really see the connection between D and G and if they really cared about D, they would want to see her happy, as Jesse seems to be doing.

I understand that he is going home this week, which makes me really sad, but I bugs me to no end when people judge him based on his looks and discomfort in front of the camera. I am usually a really good judge of character, and G seems to be the most genuine of them all. Everyone else is just going through the motions and saying what D wants to hear. G is keeping it real.
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Old 06-18-2008, 03:04 PM   #2082
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Hooked, I wonder if what Graham means by the first most painful thing was falling for Dee then seeing/hearing about her kissing or dating the other guys? No matter, he is used to having a girlfriend for four weeks devote themselves to him then ends the relationship so he stayed true to himself. LOL Has anyone figured out how many weeks he was on the show before his departure?
He may have opened up to DeAnna about his true feelings and I know that Sags (Graham's a Sag) have an extremely difficult time with verbal expressions of love.
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Old 06-18-2008, 03:04 PM   #2083
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If you have been lurking, then you are aware that 1) Graham leaves at F4 of his own choice, and 2) that it is fairly evident that Jason is F1 . So, in the time frame of less than a week , DeAnna completely blocks out what she is so obviously feeling toward Graham and falls madly in love with Jason and they live happily ever after . Sorry, not buying what Fleiss is selling.
It's just simply not that black and white. People can have deep feelings for more than one person at a time. She has feelings for Graham. She has feelings for Jason. She has feelings for Jeremy. I can see it in all three cases.
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OK. So many people seem to be questioning Graham's true intentions and character. If he was really the bad guy many are making him out to be, then explain Jesse's parting words after his 1 on 1 time with D when Graham interrupted. Here are Jesse's words, "If anyone was going to steal her, I am glad it was you." I think that Jesse is acting as a friend to Deanna in this and I don't see any romantic connection between them. If Jesse is OK with Graham stealing her when all the other guys complain about it, there must be something about G that Jesse respects and likes. The guys really see the connection between D and G and if they really cared about D, they would want to see her happy, as Jesse seems to be doing.

I understand that he is going home this week, which makes me really sad, but I bugs me to no end when people judge him based on his looks and discomfort in front of the camera. I am usually a really good judge of character, and G seems to be the most genuine of them all. Everyone else is just going through the motions and saying what D wants to hear. G is keeping it real.
i agree 100%. just because everything he says isnt perfect people hate on him and that bugs me because in real life, you don't say whatever deanna wants to hear everyday and every second ur with her
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Old 06-18-2008, 03:06 PM   #2085
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Sorry this is off the wall but I was just at the ABC Forum and someone posted this...

"Graham wants a wife about as much I want to throw acid in my eyes"

I just had to chuckle....
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Old 06-18-2008, 03:06 PM   #2086
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Yep rumor has it, its great huh? Karma, what goes around comes around! Life's circle. Seems odd doesn't it?
Rumor also speculates that it has something to do with what his mom tells Deanna....the "note-card" is reportedly from Graham...he also reportedly asked to leave....supposidly he never has a relationship that extends 4 weeks....

I like to look at the evidence (or at least the evidence we are given to look at!)...we all LOVE to specualte and wonder...that is why we gather and discuss here.....

FACT: Graham will leave at F4 because DeAnna sends him home at that point...

FACT: No screencaps of Graham in Bahammas on FD...

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Yep rumor has it, its great huh? Karma, what goes around comes around! Life's circle. Seems odd doesn't it?
I am not following your thoughts about this being DeAnna's karma in life.
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The great irony for me is that Brad let Deanna go at the end because he didn't feel "butterflies" with her...while Deanna will let Graham go in spite of butterflies and feeling like a school girl when she's around him. Full circle, no?
it's not about the butterflies, it's more about her choosing someone and him not choosing her - another Brad parallel.
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The great irony for me is that Brad let Deanna go at the end because he didn't feel "butterflies" with her...while Deanna will let Graham go in spite of butterflies and feeling like a school girl when she's around him. Full circle, no?
But would she have let him go is the question!
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Rumor also speculates that it has something to do with what his mom tells Deanna....the "note-card" is reportedly from Graham...he also reportedly asked to leave....supposidly he never has a relationship that extends 4 weeks....

I like to look at the evidence (or at least the evidence we are given to look at!)...we all LOVE to specualte and wonder...that is why we gather and discuss here.....

FACT: Graham will leave at F4 because DeAnna sends him home at that point...

FACT: No screencaps of Graham in Bahammas on FD...

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fan*addict, what we are given to look at is what Fleiss wants us to see, nothing more, nothing less.

We all know that there are no SC's of Graham past F4; at least none that have been shown; there have been hints by some of the sleuthers on this board from their sources that Graham chose to leave at F4.

I was concurring with the poster who said that its weird that Brad decided he couldn't choose Deanna because "it just wasn't enough" (Paraphrased) and now it appears that another "butterfly" moment is about to end.

My opinion (for what its worth) is that Jason is F1. I don't have a horse in this race. I choose to believe that Fleiss would not introduce a young child into night time television without the father being selected as F1.
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