Graham **SPOILERS**

[Luvstruck]

Originally Posted by sclilred1

Oh she WILL chose someone. Can't have her looking like Brad now can we? Even if she isn't really interested in the person she picks, knows that it won't work out because her heart is with someone else, she WILL pick someone. I just hope that they do actually bring someone back this time around (if Graham does in fact leave) because if not whomever she does pick will still feel like second best or that they were picked because she had to pick someone.

You would think the powers that be producing this show would have noticed what we all have seen even with their editing, the guy Deanna wanted was Graham. If he left they would try to talk him into coming back some how so there would be the fairy tale ending Dee has talked about!!! If they couldn't see it and didn't try to keep him or get him back then Shame On Them.

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[sclilred1]

Originally Posted by 2observe

Noooo, she wouldn't do that...isn't that DECEPTION

You sure you want to ask me that? I really highly doubt that TPTB would allow her to do what Brad did. Especially considering what DeAnna's response to it was. You know the whole why can't you at least date me and see if something more develops or not instead of saying you never want to see me again. So yes, I think that she WILL pick someone no matter what.

[sclilred1]

Originally Posted by Luvstruck

You would think the powers that be producing this show would have noticed what we all have seen even with their editing, the guy Deanna wanted was Graham. If he left they would try to talk him into coming back some how so there would be the fairy tale ending Dee has talked about!!! If they couldn't see it and didn't try to keep him or get him back then Shame On Them.

TPTB could care less about an honest to goodness real love story and if the couple actually stay together down the road or not. The main thing that Fleiss is thinking of is ratings. If he has the ratings and his pockets are being lined then he's good. Heck, he's proven that by throwing folks under the bus during the editing part if they dare go against his wants and wishes. All just my opinion of course but I think that TPTB know that DeAnna does not want to look like Brad did so she will pick someone even if she has to fake it.

[procheervet]

And this is why we are getting the edit we are getting, if Graham were F1 he would be getting an amazing edit right now, but he leaves at F4 so Fleiss has to put some negativity out there so we don't all scream and holler, unfortunately, no matter how he tries to discredit it, we all see what is there because it burns throught the screen and there just isn't that kind of red hot passion with any of the other guys

[Broadway]

Originally Posted by Sara23

I haven't seen much speculation on why the "Men Tell All" is being aired this coming Monday when there are still 6 men in the running. My theory is that Graham left on his own accord after the hometown date and the producers had to scramble to explain his exit in a way that wouldn't look like he just wasn't into Deanna. Thus the ending is not the fairy tale ending that the show's producers wanted - so they're airing the MTA show now while it still has a little life in it. Also, if the producers waited until the final two, they would have to explain why Graham was not there at the MTA show to discuss the last two guys in the finale.

I still believe that Graham is just not that into Deanna and the show. Remember - every guy who goes on this show isn't instantly in love with Deanna. I'm sure that most of the guys didn't know anything about her until the producers showed them pictures/previous show.

This is just my opinion.

The Men Tell All is not being aired this next week. It isn't being shown until it's proper spot in three weeks. What is being shown this week is a DeAnna Tell All type of show... but even that is an odd, first time event.

I find it disgustingly disrespectful to spin this that whoever is the F1 is there because of default. Graham is definitely getting the Bettina, Danielle, and even Bevin edit this season where there is always a huge fan base that has latched onto something and has convinced themselves that no one else is worthy. There's no point tearing down another contestant just because people want to fly against all evidence that indicates that your favorite just isn't the "winner" or chosen one.

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Originally Posted by procheervet

And this is why we are getting the edit we are getting, if Graham were F1 he would be getting an amazing edit right now, but he leaves at F4 so Fleiss has to put some negativity out there so we don't all scream and holler, unfortunately, no matter how he tries to discredit it, we all see what is there because it burns throught the screen and there just isn't that kind of red hot passion with any of the other guys

You know, I'm thinking today Graham will leave in Palm Springs. I think the basketball bleachers cap is a red herring.

The episode description of Dee's date with Sean is not in keeping with her adamantly refusing to lead guys on (if she were about to let Sean go).

Plus, they've been building up to her letting Graham go for several episodes now.

We always see caps that we don't end up seeing the scenes for aired--I think the bleachers cap with Graham that makes everyone think he's F4 is form something else that we just never saw.

I think it's a Fleiss atom bomb.

[KashatheDiva]

Originally Posted by sclilred1

TPTB could care less about an honest to goodness real love story and if the couple actually stay together down the road or not. The main thing that Fleiss is thinking of is ratings. If he has the ratings and his pockets are being lined then he's good. Heck, he's proven that by throwing folks under the bus during the editing part if they dare go against his wants and wishes. All just my opinion of course but I think that TPTB know that DeAnna does not want to look like Brad did so she will pick someone even if she has to fake it.

Yep!

[stacerace]

Originally Posted by Luvstruck

You would think the powers that be producing this show would have noticed what we all have seen even with their editing, the guy Deanna wanted was Graham. If he left they would try to talk him into coming back some how so there would be the fairy tale ending Dee has talked about!!! If they couldn't see it and didn't try to keep him or get him back then Shame On Them.

What we all have seen? Take a look at Jason's 290 page thread that is growing every time I refresh my screen and you'll see that is not necessarily the case

[chrisg]

Originally Posted by Broadway

I find it disgustingly disrespectful to spin this that whoever is the F1 is there because of default. Graham is definitely getting the Bettina, Danielle, and even Bevin edit this season where there is always a huge fan base that has latched onto something and has convinced themselves that no one else is worthy. There's no point tearing down another contestant just because people want to fly against all evidence that indicates that your favorite just isn't the "winner" or chosen one.

I couldn't agree with this more. I just looked at the first body language analysis Lynn did on May 15th (I think that was the date) of the screencaps where she said that Jason was the clear winner in terms of the chemistry she was reading in the pictures--particularly the attraction she was reading from DeAnna toward each of the guys. That was Lynn's objective analysis in which she disclosed that she already had a favorite of her own that I think was Jeremy. Even with that said, chemistry and a few bucks buys you a cup of coffee.

There's obvious physical chemistry between Graham and DeAnna but I don't get where that becomes 'that's where her heart is' or 'if she chooses anyone else, it's by default' or 'It's a once in a lifetime love'. I also saw the same thing on the boards with regard to Brad and Bettina along with vows and promises that he would be dating her after the show b/c she was his 'one true love' or whatever. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that ever transpired.

Physical chemistry is a fact of life but doesn't necessarily mean anything beyond that. It's just an attraction. Some attractions are stronger than others and it's still just chemistry. And as a 20-something New Yorker who still goes out to bars we don't call attraction 'a once in a lifetime love' or anything close. We call it Friday night.

[GrahamGal]

Originally Posted by FanOfUnrealTV

It was just the reverse of the situation with Robert when he tried to kiss her and she pointed to her cheek: It wasn't a romantic moment, so why would Graham kiss her right then?

I was just trying to reply to this post with the same point, but it got long and wordy so I decided not to. You summed it up much better that I was going to. I completely agree!

I am also new here and as you can see a big Graham fan!