Graham **SPOILERS**

[procheervet]

Originally Posted by pajamasam

Ah Elvira, thank you for that lovely summation. Yes, she figures out that Graham isnt as into her as she had hoped. Her fairy tale is just not going to happen with him. And De, like Trista, realizes that there is a gem in her midst .

Totally disagree with this. Graham is into Deanna, and Deanna is into Graham. The problem is there are other guys into Deanna and Graham cannot handle "sharing his woman" which is a NORMAL reaction. If Graham had stuck it out, I would bet he would have been F1.

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[Bonbonlover]

I agree procheervet... Graham IS into DeAnna and it hurts him to see her giving and getting attention from other men... He does have a barrier up but that is for protection... if that wall could only come down, they would be a smokin' couple

[angelic_one2002]

As I said before, he's not into her enough to make himself want to stay. I also don't blame him at all for being uncomfortable in that house with all the competition. This doesnt make him have committment issues, in my opinion.

[OregonGal]

I just recently happened onto this scene, and have read just about all of the comments. I am already in mourning at the thought of Graham leaving the show early. He is smokin' hot, all right, but also appears to be a gentleman and a good person. I think he does care about De - otherwise he wouldn't get so upset when she presses him. This is just not the setting for him to explore a relationship, it seems. He probably thought he'd be able to handle it, but quickly found out how uncomfortable it made him.

I'm hoping the producers are playing games with us, tricking us into thinking he won't be there at the end. He and De need time away from the cameras to see if they are truly a match. If it doesn't work out, maybe he'd like to vacation in Oregon .................. ahhhhhh!

[procheervet]

Oregon, but you have a loooooooooooong line ahead of you!

[cupcakes]

Originally Posted by KesaiSerris

Am I the only one who wonders if it wouldn't be in the shows interest to make use of the rumors and sites like myspace and facebook as well as even leaking out misleading pics? I mean people are going to speculate and there's always rumors why not use it to their advantage to mislead? I know I've seen pics of scenes I don't recall seeing later on the aired show.

On another note I've wondered about this, sweet and nice guys "Fred" Brian" tend to get nixed in the show. My theory is this. Either the Bachelor/Bacherlorette gets swept away by the intensity and drama and so those laid-back sweet people just don't shine bright enough so to speak so they get overlooked b/c of the heat of the moment and all the lust (no one can tell me Deanna isn't lusting for Graham whether its deeper or not, she wants him lol) or the producers don't think those people add enough drama and so they get nixed b/c they aren't good for reality TV and the exaggerated style of American television in general, I mean seriously sometimes it doesn't make sense why they go. Remember Gwen a long time ago? Sometimes its just weird....

Does anyone remember in the very beginning of this season it might've been the first episode, it had a preview of Deanna rejecting a guy, I believe her reasons were he got attached too fast, was too clingy or something. That was ages ago so I may be wrong but its been lingering in mind and after seeing her and Jeremy that's my guess of who it is (if it happened lol), which explains the teary-eyes snapshots we've got of him. It just sort of reminds me of Robin, Matt was so close to her the other girls were envious but he went on liking her and then suddenly it was like a switch went off and he got tired of her or something. I think that might happen to Jeremy.

In reference to Graham in what I've seen of the bachelor/bachelorette the rocky passionate relationships do last to the end from what little I have seen. I mean remember Shayne? There was some fighting b/w her and Matt and for a while he was totally suspicious of her motives. I am not saying Graham will win but I am just saying sometimes it doesn't start off seeming a match made in heaven.

Also just b/c Graham didn't kiss her doesn't mean he doesn't like her. In America we tend to think guys want sex all the time and that they'd never turn down an opportunity with a girl they like even if the moment was all wrong. The boy was troubled and the way Deanna acted then seemed like she didn't care what he had to say she just wanted to snog him. No offense to anyone but I wouldn't have wanted to kiss her then either, I mean the moment was just bizarre him trying to be serious and her wanting to jump him

I'm new btw

Sorry it got long

KesaiSerris! Great first post.

Originally Posted by OregonGal

I just recently happened onto this scene, and have read just about all of the comments. I am already in mourning at the thought of Graham leaving the show early. He is smokin' hot, all right, but also appears to be a gentleman and a good person. I think he does care about De - otherwise he wouldn't get so upset when she presses him. This is just not the setting for him to explore a relationship, it seems. He probably thought he'd be able to handle it, but quickly found out how uncomfortable it made him.

I'm hoping the producers are playing games with us, tricking us into thinking he won't be there at the end. He and De need time away from the cameras to see if they are truly a match. If it doesn't work out, maybe he'd like to vacation in Oregon .................. ahhhhhh!

OregonGal! Hope you post more of your thoughts with us

[procheervet]

I'm hoping the producers are playing games with us, tricking us into thinking he won't be there at the end. He and De need time away from the cameras to see if they are truly a match.

OregonGal, I have said from the beginning I hope we are being "Fleissed" and Graham somehow comes back at the FRC. Not a likely scenario, but one that many of us hope to see happen.

[ilovemick]

Originally Posted by procheervet

Totally disagree with this. Graham is into Deanna, and Deanna is into Graham. The problem is there are other guys into Deanna and Graham cannot handle "sharing his woman" which is a NORMAL reaction. If Graham had stuck it out, I would bet he would have been F1.

I agree also. I feel like I am watching a movie where she is afraid to open up and he is afraid to open up, they are afraid of getting their hearts broken. In the movie they finally realize they have to take a chance and risk their hearts. But on this show, there is no time, the bachelor or bachelorette is not supposed to let on who he/she likes, they are made to lead others on to a degree so they will open up. People get their hearts broken that are rejected. Who can forget Moana, Bevin and Matt. I don't want to see that.

I feel that if Graham would have kissed her (It wasn't that he did not WANT to kiss her) and said I want to be the final guy he would have been. She may choose Jason and he is a good guy, but I do believe he would be second choice. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I love Graham and I think my heart is going to break when he goes (either by choice or not receiving a rose) and it may be hard for me to watch the rest of the show.

He seems to be a great guy and everything happens for a reason, he may be very happy where he is in his life right now.

[Ryvetted]

Originally Posted by procheervet

I'm hoping the producers are playing games with us, tricking us into thinking he won't be there at the end. He and De need time away from the cameras to see if they are truly a match.

OregonGal, I have said from the beginning I hope we are being "Fleissed" and Graham somehow comes back at the FRC. Not a likely scenario, but one that many of us hope to see happen.

It would be SO romantic if that were the case!!
What a dream!

[procheervet]

Originally Posted by ilovemick

I agree also. I feel like I am watching a movie where she is afraid to open up and he is afraid to open up, they are afraid of getting their hearts broken. In the movie they finally realize they have to take a chance and risk their hearts. But on this show, there is no time, the bachelor or bachelorette is not supposed to let on who he/she likes, they are made to lead others on to a degree so they will open up. People get their hearts broken that are rejected. Who can forget Moana, Bevin and Matt. I don't want to see that.

I feel that if Graham would have kissed her (It wasn't that he did not WANT to kiss her) and said I want to be the final guy he would have been. She may choose Jason and he is a good guy, but I do believe he would be second choice. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I love Graham and I think my heart is going to break when he goes (either by choice or not receiving a rose) and it may be hard for me to watch the rest of the show.

He seems to be a great guy and everything happens for a reason, he may be very happy where he is in his life right now.

I totally agree with what you have said and there are a large number of us who wish Graham great happiness.

Graham - if you are out there in cyber space PM SOMEONE AND LET THEM KNOW HOW YOU ARE DOING!!!!!!!!!!!!