Graham **SPOILERS**

[pbmax]

Originally Posted by procheervet

I don't know about you, but when I saw Graham after the men realized both Fred and Robert had been sent home, his immediate reaction was that he wanted to go and be with her, to comfort her, and realizing that he couldn't was extremely frustrated and he must have felt so powerless. He only turns the conversation to himself because Deanna asks him to, to open up, to talk about how he feels. No, he does not strike me as a "playah" at all and the friends that have known him since high school who post here say he is a great guy, very caring, very kind, and not at all a "playah".

I feel she wanted Graham there instead of Jason, at a time like that who do you want the most (the one you love). Why did we get his thoughts about the situation (hmm).

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[procheervet]

Originally Posted by babysmurf0583

I'm in the same boat. Where is it? I've only read vague references.

There have been rumors since the beginning of the show that he leaves voluntarily after the home town date. Posters that know him indicate he is seen at home prior to the end of filming, and there are no screen caps of him after the HTD's.

[anders332]

Originally Posted by procheervet

There have been rumors since the beginning of the show that he leaves voluntarily after the home town date. Posters that know him indicate he is seen at home prior to the end of filming, and there are no screen caps of him after the HTD's.

also the rumour that he leaves for a family emergency.

I'm trying to stay neutral on his departure - with the SC of Deanna crying over the note, it's certainly given the Graham rumour some teeth....

[ilovemick]

I feel like we are going around and around and around on here!!!! I know that is what this if for. We are not going to convince each other how we think everyone on the show feels, acts, what they are like in real life.

I will keep on defending Graham by saying I think he is a quiet, introspective, faithful, loyal, honest, unselfish, most real guy I see on this show. Someone who is unselfish, dedicating himself to helping others less fortunate.

? How does Graham come off unable to committ and not there for the right reasons by his inablity to accept the "process" "format". I know the others have been able to but they have not been around another women in 3-4weeks. They are boys! And some probably do have another agenda.
He wants his time with DeAnna to be special to her, he wants it to be different, he can not get past knowing that she shared what he thought was very special with him with the other guys. I think his feelings are the most real. He has told her how he feels about her, he has talked about that probably more than any of them.

[CAdreamin]

Originally Posted by pbmax

I feel she wanted Graham there instead of Jason, at a time like that who do you want the most (the one you love). Why did we get his thoughts about the situation (hmm).

I'm not sure that she would have preferred Graham there to comfort her rather than Jason because she said something along the lines of she wouldn't want to be with any one else when Jason was holding her.

[nhromantic]

Originally Posted by pbmax

I feel she wanted Graham there instead of Jason, at a time like that who do you want the most (the one you love). Why did we get his thoughts about the situation (hmm).

Why do you feel this way? Did I miss something somewhere? I am sure Graham would have wanted to be there to comfort her, but given their difficulties with communicating, how successful do you think he'd be?

[JoLena]

Originally Posted by xseannax

Graham was not emotionally prepared for the show. Whether it is issues with the past relationship, his not being sure of who he is, or his inability to open up to people, the bottom line is he should not be there. I agree with Dee...he signed up to date 1 woman with 25 boyfriends. In that situation you have to come outside yourself, outside your comfort zone, and put your heart on the line knowing that you could get rejected in the end. It frustrates me to see Dee chasing after him when there are other guys there willing and able to be open with their feelings. Yes there is chemistry, probably more on her part than his, but chemistry doesn't make a relationship it just adds to it. Graham is so caught up in his feelings he really doesn't take a minute to remember that SHE HAS BEEN THERE. He cares about his feelings of jealousy or insecurity and doesn't care that she did go through the exact same process and that she is doing everything can can to be truthful and honest with everyone. This isn't an ideal situation for anyone, but the other guys are managing to overcome their jealousy to take the time they have with her and make the most of it. The other guys even overcome Dee being so obvisously attracted to Graham and how she let's him get away with not expressing his feelings like everyone else. Graham should have bowed out a lot earlier than F4 because he was not prepared to open up to her.

This line caught my eye. Could you elaborate?

[sclilred1]

Originally Posted by ilovemick

I feel like we are going around and around and around on here!!!! I know that is what this if for. We are not going to convince each other how we think everyone on the show feels, acts, what they are like in real life.

I will keep on defending Graham by saying I think he is a quiet, introspective, faithful, loyal, honest, unselfish, most real guy I see on this show. Someone who is unselfish, dedicating himself to helping others less fortunate.

? How does Graham come off unable to committ and not there for the right reasons by his inablity to accept the "process" "format". I know the others have been able to but they have not been around another women in 3-4weeks. They are boys! And some probably do have another agenda.
He wants his time with DeAnna to be special to her, he wants it to be different, he can not get past knowing that she shared what he thought was very special with him with the other guys. I think his feelings are the most real. He has told her how he feels about her, he has talked about that probably more than any of them.

I like what you said in your post! It just reminds me again that what we are being shown is a real relationship between DeAnna and Graham. The kind of relationship where you talk about the issues, try to move past them and see where that relationship will lead. Unfortunately I am seeing this more on Graham's part than I am from DeAnna. There were times last night when I truly felt that Graham should just look at DeAnna and say "You know what, this is me, how I truly am and you either like me for me or you don't. I am not going to change for you and I would not ask or expect you to change for me. This is real and if you can't accept that I am having problems with the whole process and with you kissing, hugging, groping other men then it is time for me to leave." If Graham does in fact leave on his own (for whatever reason) then I think that it is the best decision for HIM. Contrary to what some have said this is not all about DeAnna. DeAnna should know this as she "had her heart broken by Brad not once but twice" and should be willing to give the guys more leeway instead of screaming at them because they don't jump when she wants them to.

All of the above is simply my own opinion of course.

[musicmom]

exactly. Noone denies that Graham and D WANT to be together, but they are not good together, they bring out the worst in each other. so far...from our edited standpoint.

[palmasola]

Graham most likely would not have comforted Dee in the same manner as Jason...