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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfritter;3847265;
    Vienna, now realize that about herself and she is now a work in progress.
    Well, I don't know about a work in progress, but I do think she's a piece of work.
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    I hope that anyone who has children, that their children will never experience any kind of hate and bashing like Vienna.

    A 13 year old girl commited suicide because of bashing and rumors posted on Myspace and Facebook. What is really sad it was a grown woman posing as a teenager and she received no jail time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfritter;3847276;
    I hope that anyone who has children, that their children will never experience any kind of hate and bashing like Vienna.

    A 13 year old girl commited suicide because of bashing and rumors posted on Myspace and Facebook. What is really sad it was a grown woman posing as a teenager and she received no jail time.
    I'm sorry, I have no idea why you made these statements. I'm 65 years old, a mother, grandmother, and great-grandmother of a daughter, three granddaughters, and one great grand-daughter, I am not responsible for Vienna's actions or what has been publicised about her.
    Like everyone else here, I have an opinion and I'm posting my opinions, and mine are far from the worst that have been posted here or on any other website.
    If you have an objection to that then I believe you are barking up the wrong tree. Write to the tabloids and show-business websites who are publishing all of the so-called nastiness about Vienna. It's that information which should be your target, not my comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajd66;3846535;
    Oh, is it another one like Ed having intimate relations with Lindsey after he became engaged to Jill???? Seems like these trash sights could come up with some new stories, instead of same story, new names.

    Just My opinion only.
    I believe the Ed stories. I don't really care about Jake enough to care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavalygurl;3847290;
    I believe the Ed stories. I don't really care about Jake enough to care.
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    I don't understand why posting the sad truth about these people is bashing, but saying that they make a darling couple with huge hearts, who are misunderstood, is laudable. I think I understand them very well. Notice how many people have appeared on the show about whom there have never been any negative reports. A bad reputation, like a good one, must be earned.
    I have a daughter who is almost Vienna's age. She has never worked at Hooters, had a boob job, done bikini contests, eloped with a stranger, gone on TV to find a better husband, alienated every girl she rooms with, posed topless, moved in with a guy she knew for a month, or licked whip cream off of another girl's chest.
    I have a son who isn't far behind in age. He is quite involved in the church, a youth ministry leader - but he doesn't talk about it, he lives it. He also would not go on TV for a wife, sleep with a girl with a shady past who he has known for a month, brag to the magazines about his sex life, steal money from a friend, or lie whenever called upon to do so.
    So forgive me if I'm not moved by those who try to make us feel guilty for criticizing Jake and Vienna. Because I believe in something called character. Some have it and some don't, but it has to be demonstrated....and our happy couple seems to have missed that lesson in life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terabithia;3847267;
    I apologize if this has already been posted, but y'all have to check out Jake's personal website: jake-pavelka.com

    After looking over this website is there really any doubt why he went on The Bachelorette and then agreed to do The Bacehlor? Vienna who?

    If they are for real and live happily ever then hurrah for them, I don't want to be critical of two people in love. I've been in relationships that other people questioned and gossiped about and it sucks, no doubt. I can't help but wonder though...
    I checked it out. Unfortunately I can't get past the "About Me" page because I'm laughing so hard. It goes on and on (and ON) about how he's a specialist at "chivalry." Ah yes. As he throws and ex under the bus (Ali) and tells all kinds of inappropriate information to the masses about his current significant other (Vienna). He's Mr. Chivalry all right!

    Says he's developed a speaking platform about chivalry and successful business relationships, and is getting oodles of requests for him to advise people through events or emails about dating and finding a true friend. *snort*

    Maybe by later today I'll have stopped laughing enough so that I can read the rest of it.

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    I was quite confused like the rest of America about the whole Vienna bashing inside the house, throughout the season but I must say, I know why NOW.
    Vienna in her interviews and the way she talks about other girls with a soft voice, a clueless look and a smile. She's the type of woman who would sleep with your husband and when you confront her she would say something like "Oups Im sorry *smile* deal with it" That's the type of vibe I get from her, and its very hard to pinpoint that in interviews when people ask about it. Its just the way she is.

    Vienna - *sigh* *smile* They were all just jealous of me *sgh* *smile*
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    Re: Bachelor 14 - Media Articles and Interviews

    Quote Originally Posted by sdl;3847291;
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    I don't understand why posting the sad truth about these people is bashing, but saying that they make a darling couple with huge hearts, who are misunderstood, is laudable. I think I understand them very well. Notice how many people have appeared on the show about whom there have never been any negative reports. A bad reputation, like a good one, must be earned.
    I have a daughter who is almost Vienna's age. She has never worked at Hooters, had a boob job, done bikini contests, eloped with a stranger, gone on TV to find a better husband, alienated every girl she rooms with, posed topless, moved in with a guy she knew for a month, or licked whip cream off of another girl's chest.
    I have a son who isn't far behind in age. He is quite involved in the church, a youth ministry leader - but he doesn't talk about it, he lives it. He also would not go on TV for a wife, sleep with a girl with a shady past who he has known for a month, brag to the magazines about his sex life, steal money from a friend, or lie whenever called upon to do so.
    So forgive me if I'm not moved by those who try to make us feel guilty for criticizing Jake and Vienna. Because I believe in something called character. Some have it and some don't, but it has to be demonstrated....and our happy couple seems to have missed that lesson in life.
    sdl; Thank you. You have expressed exactly how I have felt through this whole season. I gave up the blogging and commenting because frankly, I was frustrated by what I thought was blantantly an acting job by Jake and the childish behavior of Vienna, and the fact that we were supposed to then say "oh, but aren't they sweet" and hold them up as some sort of example of how to "fall in love" . Hey, if they are "in lust" knock yourself out, but you put your life and behavior in the media for all to see. So that opens up the possibility that your behavior, good or bad, is going to be part of the media fodder. Live with it. I hate when people act like loons and then blame the media for commenting on it. If he hated it so much, why go right back to another reality show. want to bet we'll get these two on some sort of Vh1 show?
    I too have two sons sdl, younger than Vienna, but of the age that many commentors, here and the motherboard, say is that time of life when your act like a fool and it's supposed to be okay. Guess what - they and their friends think Vienna is a nut job, acts more like a 12 year old than someone who quite honestly is old enough to be a teacher or parent, and is far from a shining example of what "kids" are doing nowadays. Not everyone goes to Florida and drinks themselves to a stupor over spring break. My niece and nephews the last two years have gone to New Orleans to help with home rebuilding with groups from their colleges.
    Worse season of Bachelor ever but I'm sure Fleiss is loving the ratings and attention.

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    As a former wild child that has made some of the same mistakes (and some much worse) Vienna did (including running off and eloping with some man I hardly knew at 19) I have to say that I don't get as much criticism as her. But at the same time I worked on myself and my life. I don't see that's she grown from those mistakes. It just appears to me she has found a new forum to make the same mistakes and gain a lot of publicity for it.

    She essentially just ran off again with the first man to give her a little attention after hardly knowing him as a monogamous being. They're looking at walking down the aisle already (whether or not that happens is anyones guess). He probably did love both girls because neither of them were particularly complete. He got his, uh, ego stroked by the one and his emotional needs met by the other other.

    Anyhow, I hardly compare the discussion going on here about adults who want to come off as mature to what happened to that 13 year old child. I hardly hold their relationship up as something I aspire to have. His constant games and lies and that stuff is a huge turn off. I hope his parents and family are proud of him. His defending her behavior seems juvenile. She presents herself like that, she's a big girl, she can defend her own stupid choices. I can honestly say if I had to put in as much work as he does defending his lover I would seriously start to consider if that is a person ready for any sort of relationship. I hardly consider these people the moral high ground.

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    Re: Bachelor 14 - Media Articles and Interviews

    Quote Originally Posted by sdl;3847212;
    Outside of this show, and the brainwashing that goes on, here's what I see:
    Jake: short guy, never completed college, talks religion but doesn't practice it, booooring, 32 and unmarried, giggles when women touch him, can't ride a motorcycle worth a damn, longest career ever in a starter job, stole from his business partner, wears funny shoes, horny, untruthful, a dorky guy you don't like but won't go away, hates tattoos but loves the kinds of girls who have them, has a family that is as gullible as he is, loser.
    Vienna: proof that men and horses can breed, bleaches hair and teeth, spray tans the rest, redefined "obnoxious" as "honest," "immature" as ""playful," and "skanky" as "warm," stole the boob job, should have stolen a nose job and gotten her eyes uncrossed, missed church for bikini contests, best employment ever was Hooters, hated by other women, loved by old boyfriend who resisted arrest at her home and recently had to go to jail, draws attention by making out with other girls on stage, Dad's name is Vinnie, dresses her dog, hobby is wrecking cars, best lighting is neon, unemployed, loser.
    sdl, what happened to being a sucker for a good love story and toning down your negativity? Yikes!

    I just want them all to go away at this point. I don't care for Ali much, but for her sake, I hope she gets through the Bachelorette unscathed and with some dignity intact.

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