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    Hello all, anyone want to help me try to figure out just what this means? It's from EOnline's interview today:

    Oh, and about that alleged sex tape being peddled around, Rozlyn is less direct. "[My lawyer's] working on it. Whoever it is that's shopping around is also the guy who's shopped around other fake celebrity sex tapes. I don't want to say too much about it, except that as far as I know it's a hoax." And when asked point blank if the tape exists or not, she responds: "Not that I know of, but I have a kid. I've done it before..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacheater;3845328;
    Could you please identify where Rozlyn lied during the interview? I've listened twice and didn't identify anything that would constitute a lie.

    Whenever I identify a lie, as in Chris Harrison's interview on Feb 27th with US Weekly, I try to provide specifics to ground my point of view.
    Rozlyn is yesterday's news, but here is one section from the RS/Rozlyn interview easily available and relevant:
    (0:56:40) RS: Lets move on to the Women Tell All. I think the biggest question surrounding the Women Tell All and the one that I’ve been asked the most, and gotta ask you, why in the hell did you do it?
    (0:56:50) Rozlyn: Ah, heh. I often tell until a few days prior that I’d no intention of doing the Women Tell All, like I really thought they would have to drag me there kicking and screaming. Um, what ended up happening was, uh, you know, I gotta lawyer during all this cause I had considered a defamation suit and, you know. So I’m kinda, you know, dealing with that, but, um, apparently in the contract it says you cannot do anything in the entertainment industry for a year, and they have the option to pay you $10,000 to make it so you can’t do anything in the entertainment industry for an additional six months. Um, so basically that’s a year and a half where they were saying, like, you can’t have a livelihood. Because, I, that was my job before, you know, basically what they were saying is you can’t work for a year.
    If you continue to listen to the interview, there is no misunderstanding of what she meant --- she isn't confusing media interviews with entertainment employment.

    Look, it is my understanding that the TPTB does not prohibit entertainment related employment, but holds the contractual right of entitlement to any contestant's compensation in excess of certain compensatory enumerations set forth within the contract for specifically defined entertainment industry type work.

    I believe Rozlyn when she said she hadn't ever watched the Bachelor show prior to auditioning. Unless she spent time on the boards, she would no idea that sample Bachelor show confidential contestant contracts readily available to fans on the internet and, if that not enough, SDL's brilliant analysis of said contract here at FORT.

    Although I have no idea why Rozlyn agreed to participate on the Women Tell All, it wasn't to secure the right to be able to work in the industry. The woman lied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansmommy;3850301;
    Rozlyn is yesterday's news, but here is one section from the RS/Rozlyn interview easily available and relevant:
    (0:56:40) RS: Lets move on to the Women Tell All. I think the biggest question surrounding the Women Tell All and the one that Iíve been asked the most, and gotta ask you, why in the hell did you do it?
    (0:56:50) Rozlyn: Ah, heh. I often tell until a few days prior that Iíd no intention of doing the Women Tell All, like I really thought they would have to drag me there kicking and screaming. Um, what ended up happening was, uh, you know, I gotta lawyer during all this cause I had considered a defamation suit and, you know. So Iím kinda, you know, dealing with that, but, um, apparently in the contract it says you cannot do anything in the entertainment industry for a year, and they have the option to pay you $10,000 to make it so you canít do anything in the entertainment industry for an additional six months. Um, so basically thatís a year and a half where they were saying, like, you canít have a livelihood. Because, I, that was my job before, you know, basically what they were saying is you canít work for a year.
    If you continue to listen to the interview, there is no misunderstanding of what she meant --- she isn't confusing media interviews with entertainment employment.

    Look, it is my understanding that the TPTB does not prohibit entertainment related employment, but holds the contractual right of entitlement to any contestant's compensation in excess of certain compensatory enumerations set forth within the contract for specifically defined entertainment industry type work.

    I believe Rozlyn when she said she hadn't ever watched the Bachelor show prior to auditioning. Unless she spent time on the boards, she would no idea that sample Bachelor show confidential contestant contracts readily available to fans on the internet and, if that not enough, SDL's brilliant analysis of said contract here at FORT.

    Although I have no idea why Rozlyn agreed to participate on the Women Tell All, it wasn't to secure the right to be able to work in the industry. The woman lied.
    Thanks for finally replying with such detail. Unfortunately, I have reason to disagree. I've made a suggestion to the appropriate people that they explain the extent of the negotiations and the resulting agreement.

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    This wasn't the only inconsistent remark coming from Rozlyn during her RS interview, but does happen to be a small segment that someone transcribe.

    Nonetheless, seems simple enough for someone --- anyone --- to cough up a copy of an updated contestant contract, if, in fact, the pertaining section has substantially changed.

    Although I do recognize it a plausible argument that a contestant not excessively benefit from notoriety achieved from one of the Bachelor without sharing that benefit with the network and the production company for a reasonable period. However, just can't see Fleiss or ABC going so far as to prevent any contestant from earning a living as Rozlyn insisted.

    Had Rozlyn not said her attorney counseled her on the matter, it might also be possible for Rozlyn to have misunderstood --- but she, herself, mentioned her attorney negotiated on her behalf with TPTB over the issue --- so she would be able to be released from this particular clause.

    I really do believe Rozlyn an impressive liar, underestimated the quality of information out there and accessible to interested Bachelor show fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansmommy;3851009;
    This wasn't the only inconsistent remark coming from Rozlyn during her RS interview, but does happen to be a small segment that someone transcribe.

    Nonetheless, seems simple enough for someone --- anyone --- to cough up a copy of an updated contestant contract, if, in fact, the pertaining section has substantially changed.

    Although I do recognize it a plausible argument that a contestant not excessively benefit from notoriety achieved from one of the Bachelor without sharing that benefit with the network and the production company for a reasonable period. However, just can't see Fleiss or ABC going so far as to prevent any contestant from earning a living as Rozlyn insisted.

    Had Rozlyn not said her attorney counseled her on the matter, it might also be possible for Rozlyn to have misunderstood --- but she, herself, mentioned her attorney negotiated on her behalf with TPTB over the issue --- so she would be able to be released from this particular clause.

    I really do believe Rozlyn an impressive liar, underestimated the quality of information out there and accessible to interested Bachelor show fans.
    There is an agreement; it is not public. It would be convenient if it were. I'm not in a position to make it so.

    Personally, I've seen many an exclusionary work clause in contracts. I've always believed they were flawed. This situation is no different, but I am not the lady's attorney.

    As for why anyone would care at this point, I'll only offer words from the poet Dylan Thomas:
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacheater;3851226;
    There is an agreement; it is not public. It would be convenient if it were. I'm not in a position to make it so.

    Personally, I've seen many an exclusionary work clause in contracts. I've always believed they were flawed. This situation is no different, but I am not the lady's attorney.

    As for why anyone would care at this point, I'll only offer words from the poet Dylan Thomas:
    I really don't understand what the two of you are discussing; however, to me it boils down to Rozlyn is trying to look after herself - and it looks bad - but even so, the truth may be, if she doesn't, who will?
    Take my advice. I am not using it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacheater;3851226;
    There is an agreement; it is not public. It would be convenient if it were. I'm not in a position to make it so.

    Personally, I've seen many an exclusionary work clause in contracts. I've always believed they were flawed. This situation is no different, but I am not the lady's attorney.

    As for why anyone would care at this point, I'll only offer words from the poet Dylan Thomas:
    The last contract posted to the internet does not support what Rozlyn stated during her interview with RS. If there a new version of the contract since the last one SDL provided commentary, I would be interested in seeing it.

    As it stands, it could very well be that Rozlyn made some sort of agreement, I expect she did, but it had nothing to do with negotiating away a prohibition of working anywhere entertainment industry for a year, for the standard contestant contract did never did so. There are clauses that limits her ability to be interviewed and discuss the show, requiring her to seek permission and rather obvious Rozlyn breached those clauses. But no where does it infer, directly or indirectly, her being unable to work in the entertainment industry; thus, the woman lied.

    I absolutely agree with you that in the large scheme of things, Rozlyn's antics are minor and she a bit player. I don't care about the woman one way or another ... only about the story she tells.

    Nonetheless, I would expect that right about now she far more concerned about the porn video having been released yesterday --- as reported to have happened by TMZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloomers;3851232;
    I really don't understand what the two of you are discussing...
    Neither do I.

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    Bachelor's Rozlyn Papa Sex Tape Is Vintage Porn

    Update: Mystery solved! A lawyer for Rozlyn Papa has ID'd the clip purporting to be a sex tape of his client. According to a statement from Roderick J. Lindblom, "a cursory internet search reveals that the clip appears to be from a 2004 porn movie titled Pole Position: Lex POV, directed by Lexington Steele."

    ________

    While Rozlyn Papa may have been Jake Pavelka's most controversial potential paramour, she's not a porn star.

    A 15-second dirty video that went live on (deleted) today may look like her, but the blond woman shown "is clearly not her," her rep, Stacie Vanchieri, tells E! News exclusively.

    "I've seen the tape," she continues. "Anyone who has met her once would know it's not her. The woman has a different body, hands, face, everything."

    Indeed, the fast flick shows a seemingly much more flat-chested woman than the 29-year-old reality star.

    "The woman looks directly into the camera and is definitely not Rozlyn," Vanchieri claims. "The tape looks like it was done as porn to be sold, not a private moment captured on tape…It so clearly seems someone is trying to ruin her. I don't know why someone would do this to her—she has to take her son to school in the mornings."

    Papa, who continues to deny any sort of affair with a producer on the ABC reality show, told us last week that she'd heard some buzz about sex tapes starring her and was having her lawyer get to the bottom of it.

    "Whoever it is that's shopping around is also the guy who's shopped around other fake celebrity sex tapes," she said. "I don't want to say too much about it, except that as far as I know, it's a hoax."

    While Papa's lawyer is taking the necessary steps to have the video removed from the website—or at least his client's name removed—the model is doing her best to keep her head held high.

    "She's upset but she's a strong cookie," Vanchieri says. "She knew there was never a sex tape but now it's kind of a relief to her that it's out there and so clearly not her."

    (Originally published March 9, 2010, at 9:00 a.m. PT)



    Read more: Bachelor's Rozlyn Papa Sex Tape Is Vintage Porn - E! Online
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlondieGal;3851765;
    Bachelor's Rozlyn Papa Sex Tape Is Vintage Porn

    Update: Mystery solved! A lawyer for Rozlyn Papa has ID'd the clip purporting to be a sex tape of his client. According to a statement from Roderick J. Lindblom, "a cursory internet search reveals that the clip appears to be from a 2004 porn movie titled Pole Position: Lex POV, directed by Lexington Steele."

    ________

    While Rozlyn Papa may have been Jake Pavelka's most controversial potential paramour, she's not a porn star.

    A 15-second dirty video that went live on (deleted) today may look like her, but the blond woman shown "is clearly not her," her rep, Stacie Vanchieri, tells E! News exclusively.

    "I've seen the tape," she continues. "Anyone who has met her once would know it's not her. The woman has a different body, hands, face, everything."

    Indeed, the fast flick shows a seemingly much more flat-chested woman than the 29-year-old reality star.

    "The woman looks directly into the camera and is definitely not Rozlyn," Vanchieri claims. "The tape looks like it was done as porn to be sold, not a private moment captured on tape…It so clearly seems someone is trying to ruin her. I don't know why someone would do this to her—she has to take her son to school in the mornings."

    Papa, who continues to deny any sort of affair with a producer on the ABC reality show, told us last week that she'd heard some buzz about sex tapes starring her and was having her lawyer get to the bottom of it.

    "Whoever it is that's shopping around is also the guy who's shopped around other fake celebrity sex tapes," she said. "I don't want to say too much about it, except that as far as I know, it's a hoax."

    While Papa's lawyer is taking the necessary steps to have the video removed from the website—or at least his client's name removed—the model is doing her best to keep her head held high.

    "She's upset but she's a strong cookie," Vanchieri says. "She knew there was never a sex tape but now it's kind of a relief to her that it's out there and so clearly not her."

    (Originally published March 9, 2010, at 9:00 a.m. PT)



    Read more: Bachelor's Rozlyn Papa Sex Tape Is Vintage Porn - E! Online
    Thanks for bringing that over. Problem is that the damage is already done, and those that think Rozlyn is trash will probably continue to associate her with "some porn video" in order to justify their low opinion of her, and their insistence on dismissing out of hand any defense or explanation she offers as "lies".

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