Rozlyn

[albean99]

Rozlyn just wasn't believable the other night. All she had to do was admit there was something there that was beyond using a phone but not to the extent implied by the show. If she had done that it wouldn't have been a story and she could have moved on but I don't think that's what she wants. She's enjoying her 15 mins and wants to extend it imo. I also think she's used to getting her own way and it probably works often with her looks but not this time. I don't see anyone who's not already biased against the show believing her story. I certainly don't. I found the girls to be believable and I'm sure they weren't able to talk about it in prior interviews because the producers wanted to keep it for the WTA for added drama. It's my hope that Rozlyn retreats back to her child and life and stays off my tv but doubt that will happen if she has anything to say about it and any mud to sling at someone else.

[one71721]

^^^ yeah, something happened to get them both fired but to the extent that this girls spilled on the WTA...I highly doubt it. Most people don't say in one instance they saw nothing and then a few weeks later give very detailed descriptions of acts. I think there was an attraction and overtly friendliness and gameness...beyond that I'm very suspect.

[Broadway]

^^^ yeah, something happened to get them both fired but to the extent that this girls spilled on the WTA...I highly doubt it. Most people don't say in one instance they saw nothing and then a few weeks later give very detailed descriptions of acts. I think there was an attraction and overtly friendliness and gameness...beyond that I'm very suspect.

Jessie's first interview was given over the phone with a producer on the line with her. Everything they say is very controlled, and you can most certainly have someone say that they didn't see something if the producers didn't want it discussed at that point.

I find it amusing that people think Chris went over the line in his questioning of her.. or that people were surprised that the interview had an agenda. If you were asking someone about a situation in which you were privy to the details, but the person you were asking continued to not only deny the truth but make nasty untrue allegations... would you not also get angry and push more? Of course he had an agenda. Roslyn and the entire viewing public should have already known that.

The producer that actually got fired for having an inappropriate relationship - do you not think that if it were false that we would have seen or heard something from him at this point? Wrongful termination lawsuits happen all of the time, even/especially in that industry and it wouldn't prevent him from getting another job. Facts are facts and if he could back himself up.. with all of this negative publicity he'd be defending himself as well. But he is not.

[shetreshe]

there totally was an agenda there! It's called CYA(cover your a..) the show is trying to make roz look as bad as possible-it's stupid and high school. Give me a break. I would be using a producers phone too if I wasn't able to call my child in any other way. They obviously lied to Roz to get her on the show-made false promises and then couldn't let her off the show and it be THEIR fault-so they had to make it her fault. Luckily for them she made it easy for them for using the producers phone and being his friend. He got fired for helping her out. They did cross conractural lines-but the show slandered them both when they implied it was more than a friendly relationship. The other girls...they want to remain on good terms with the bachelor so they throw Roz under the bus. I wish the fired producer WOULD speak up. I am pretty sure there is going to be a lawsuit in the near future and i hope they stick it to the bachelor. I have never had a problem with the bachelor in the past, never cared one way or the other, but what they've done here is downright slimy.

[norealityhere]

I don't think the show is trying to make Roz look as bad as possible.
I think she has done that to herself.

[shetreshe]

I don't think the show is trying to make Roz look as bad as possible.
I think she has done that to herself.

you do?
how?

[pminn1608]

And now she is auditioning for Hollywood. Who would have thought????

[shetreshe]

audidtioning for "Hollywood"? How do you audition for Hollywood?

[Daturian]

Ladies, let this be a lesson to you. No matter how “hot” you think you are, don’t degrade yourself by acting like Roz — ie, exposing your crotch, doing the shimmy to attract guys, etc You may like the attention you get in the moment, but you will be dismissed as a dimwitted bimbo — and no one will take you seriously.

As for Roz, I am not fan of hers. I think she exploits her sexuality. Imagine how much more impact she would have, with her beauty, if she were modest and conducted herself with class and discretion instead of acting like a sex craved maniac.

Having said that, I support Roz here. Let’s break this down, shall we:

Motive: ABC dismissed Roz and the producer for an “inappropriate relationship,” implying they had slept together. However, after that happened, Roz told the public that she had merely used the phone of a producer after she was told she could only speak on the phone with the cameras rolling.

Why would the producer be fired?

He could have been fired for merely violating protocol and disobeying orders. His loyalty was with a contestant, not the show. That alone is grounds for dismissal.

Roz’s willful breaking of the rules is also grounds for dismissal.

Why I beileve Roz:

1. None of the women saw a thing after she was dismissed. They suddenly remembered things after being coached for WTA.
2. The women contradicted themselves.
3. CH couldn’t confirm a thing – so he had to rely on hearsay. Did he dismiss a woman based upon gossip from other women who might have been jealous of Roz?
4. THere was no evidence of this supposed relationship on film.
5. After allegedly having tried to manufacture a scandal for ratings, ABC needed to save its ass and the reputation of its show — and so it threw Roz and the producer under a bus.

Do you not think ABC would be capable of this?

Consider this: how the networks manufactured the scandal to convince the public to support the war on Iraq. Their journalists took to the air and blatantly lied.

Michael Jackson. Martin Bashir got an exclusive with MJ for Nightline. In turn, MB used that opportunity to try to sell MJ as a pedophile. Statements were taken out of context. Insinuations were made. MB blatantly lied and misrepresented the entire interview to convince the public that MJ was molesting his children. Later, MJ produced his own video which contradicted MJ’s documentary. MB later retracted the entire story and admitted that MJ was a good man.

Why did MB do this? There was great ratings to be had by casting MJ as a freak and a pedo. In additon, MJ was challenging a record label on fraud charges or some other legal matter in a case which could have cost that company $millions. What better way to shoot MJ down that to ruin his reputation. ABC did this and deliberately.

Look. I don’t like Roz. I think she is stunning and very quick on her feet. I think she exploits her sexuality. Smart, good, decent women don’t do that. Yes, it’s easy. yes, society encourages women to let it all hang out and to use our parts as power. But women with true integrity and who respect men and respect male-female relationships conduct themselves in more respectful fashion.

However, ABC had motive, opportunity, and a part record of lying and character assassinations — stemming from even their NEWS DIVISION, which should be their flagship of integrity. They do it without so much as a second thought on behalf of their own bottom line. What was at stake here? CH, Mike Fleiss, and the Bachelor show made out to be a big, mendacious Joke.

What other motive might they have had? If CH did indeed have an affair with the producer’s wife, what better way to get rid of the problem then to fire the producer. Isn’t that what happens when a powerful man makes a pass at a female coworker who rejects him? He fires her and gets rid of the problem and humiliation she reminds him of? I can’t tell you that when Roz confronted him with that statement, that he looked mortified and stunned. THat was not the reaction of someone who was guilt-less. If she had lied, he could have laughed at her. IN fact, I saw him laughing as women were saying outrageous things are her alleged “inappropriate relationship.”

ABC is lying to save its ass. Because she is fighting back, they are going to use all the power at their disposal to destroy her. Worst of all, their propaganda effort appears to be working. Look at the posts on here.

The statements were absurd. ANd Gia’s comment after Roz denied the relationship — that “why didn’t you just leave the show since you were in love with him.” Roz said nothing happened – and yet, Gia acted as though the accusation was the gospel truth, even though it was based on hearsay.

Also, why did ABC have a need to zoom in on facial expressionsn of disbelief and disgust at Roz? That is subliminal programming. Those people must think she is guilty — so she must be. The audience members are ABC employees., They were coached too! Did you notice when the audience clapped to support points ROz made that the applause was edited out? You heard the beginning for a second and then it stopped abruptly.

If she were guilty, why did they sequester her away from the other women? Wouldn’t it have made for better TV and higher ratings to have her sitting there among them?

As for the women’s statements, consider Gia’s statement that Roz shoudl have been grateful for the opportunity ABC gave her. Imagine that ABC’s contract stipulates that the participants have to say what they are told. They are given lines to read. If these women wanrt opportunities for celebrity, do you think they woudl defy ABC? Did Tanner not claim he heard Wes admit to a girlfriend on MTA only to retract it afterwards on grounds that ABC made him say it?

Come on. ABC is selling a scandal. There was no need for details. If ABC had any class and integrity, they could have allowed Roz to say her piece and then say that they could agree to disagree, instead of asking for details which publicly embarrassed and damaged Roz’s reputation for life.

As for her visiting him, if Roz were lying about everything else, why didn’t she lie about seeing him too, given how that visit would look? People are consistent, and yet she was upfront about that. There are many reasons why he could have visited her, many of which have nothing to do with sex. Most people assume sex since she is gorgeous and she was made out to be a harlot. But the man’s father accompanied him. How romantic would that be? In addition, don’t you think that if you were being accused of illicit things as part of a national smear campaign, that you woudln’t want to seek support and even counsel from others who were being smeared alonjg with you? Maybe you’d even want to develop a strategy and figure out how to combat this.

Given how lacking in integrity ABC is, I am inclined to disbelieve ABC,

Roz is not my kind of person, but I do believer her account of what happened. Yes, she might have flirted a little, as that is her nature, but does it even make sense from the producer’s perspective that he would be canoodling with Roz after she got intimate with another man just hours earlier? WHat man wants sloppy seconds? Plus he is married.
ABC’s version of events does not make sense, IMO.

[kcc112]

E! she auditioned for E!....she went on the show to be like Melissa Rycroft...but too bad that was a one time thing, Melissa is the most successful career after the Bachelor, won't happen again!! lol