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Old 11-07-2009, 10:51 AM   #2261
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I hope Jake surprises us all come January !! I too liked that statement he made.
I find myself liking what I hear about and from Jake more and more as we approach his season. I was very skeptical from the start. His comments about toning it down a bit after seeing himself falling for Jillian so quickly were refreshing from Jake.

But don't we start every season kinda or maybe really liking the lead? Then as the show progresses we almost always begin to change our minds.

I can't wait to start studing Jake's ladies. Just what kind of lady will fall for Jake? My imagination doesn't comprehend that yet.
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Old 11-07-2009, 11:28 AM   #2262
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Post Shayne Show, we at FORT are Virtually free of doubters that the show is scripted and story boarded in advance, thankfully, but on the off chance any lurk here, Reality Steve has new column up reporting on a Bach 14 contestant who was asked to read lines about how she'd met her husband in Jake -- before she had met him -- for an "in the moment" filming. She refused and went home, rather than embark on the 6-week farce that is The Bachelor (SHOUT OUT to THAT gal! You rock.)
It's a fun read.
Out of lurkdom to compliment your outstanding post. Right on sistah!
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I find myself liking what I hear about and from Jake more and more as we approach his season. I was very skeptical from the start. His comments about toning it down a bit after seeing himself falling for Jillian so quickly were refreshing from Jake.

But don't we start every season kinda or maybe really liking the lead? Then as the show progresses we almost always begin to change our minds.

I can't wait to start studing Jake's ladies. Just what kind of lady will fall for Jake? My imagination doesn't comprehend that yet.

Hi, eowenc. Nice to be posting with you again. I hope Jake does give Fleiss a "run" for his money. We need some new dialogue. And, yes, many of us do like the "lead" before the show starts,especially if we've already been exposed to the person. Once the show starts, unfortunately it all goes downhill. Witness the controversies about Jill and Ed. It goes on and on and on ad nauseum on the BB. It's enough to wonder why these posters don't have a life.
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I find myself liking what I hear about and from Jake more and more as we approach his season. I was very skeptical from the start. His comments about toning it down a bit after seeing himself falling for Jillian so quickly were refreshing from Jake.

But don't we start every season kinda or maybe really liking the lead? Then as the show progresses we almost always begin to change our minds.

I can't wait to start studing Jake's ladies. Just what kind of lady will fall for Jake? My imagination doesn't comprehend that yet.
I comprehend it well, and I think a lot of women would fall for Jake. A lot of people I know who never read online forums think he is GREAT. It will be interesting to see what "types" on the show are attracted to Jake, but you can bet there will be all kinds attracted to him. There's someone for everyone.
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I comprehend it well, and I think a lot of women would fall for Jake. A lot of people I know who never read online forums think he is GREAT. It will be interesting to see what "types" on the show are attracted to Jake, but you can bet there will be all kinds attracted to him. There's someone for everyone.
Then we agree! I know there are many women who find Jake attractive and that's easy to understand. When you say 'types' is where I guess I don't understand. First, I can't see Jake with anyone other than a blond. Is that a type? No that's just a physical description. We also don't know as much about Jake as we thought we did. Before his latest interviews he seemed to me to be a different guy than those which are more recent. I find the Jake I'm seeing now is one I really like. But he was edited in the last Bachelorette differently. Believe me I'm very open minded about types of ladies and Jake also. His statement that the show we will see won't necessarily be what he's there for. That was refreshing to hear from any lead. I think he gets it better than those before him and will make the most of the opportunity. I would be more correct about my thoughts if I stated I don't comprehend the kind of lady that will fall for Jake that he will fall for also. It's going to be interesting and I'm just a little anxious. It will be fun! Agreed?
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Then we agree! I know there are many women who find Jake attractive and that's easy to understand. When you say 'types' is where I guess I don't understand. First, I can't see Jake with anyone other than a blond. Is that a type? No that's just a physical description. We also don't know as much about Jake as we thought we did. Before his latest interviews he seemed to me to be a different guy than those which are more recent. I find the Jake I'm seeing now is one I really like. But he was edited in the last Bachelorette differently. Believe me I'm very open minded about types of ladies and Jake also. His statement that the show we will see won't necessarily be what he's there for. That was refreshing to hear from any lead. I think he gets it better than those before him and will make the most of the opportunity. I would be more correct about my thoughts if I stated I don't comprehend the kind of lady that will fall for Jake that he will fall for also. It's going to be interesting and I'm just a little anxious. It will be fun! Agreed?


FWIW, Jake has recently stated that his 'type' is 5'5", blonde, blue or green eyes, and similar to him in appearance (I guess that means clean cut, all-American?). Granted, that's only a physical type and doesn't speak to likes/dislikes/disposition, etc. at all. But I guess it's a start.
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Alexxxxx, I was pleasantly surprised by his statement as well. It made me think that he might be in it for more than just the 15 minutes. He might give us a good show after all!
I'm glad Jake made this statement as well. He may never had had a chance with many posters on this board, because their favourite wasn't choosen to be the next bachelor, but in the real world of TV fans Jake is very well liked. I can see some posters changing their perception already, just because of one statement he made.

I had 8 ladies over at my home last night, all of them watch, none of them have any idea about online boards. They are thrilled Jake the pilot will be the bachelor, two of them didn't even know a bachelor was choosen. (its funny to hear one person explain to another which one was Jake from the previous season) This from people who have watched every season.
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Hey guys -
I have tried to skim through and pick up on all the gems that you have uncovered so far - excellent! it is starting to gel...
But seems a little boring since it is all about California and I really got spoiled by Jillian's season and the amazing locales week after week..

MY QUESTION IS: Do we know any of the cast members so far?? (sorry if this list is somewhere I have not yet discovered)
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I'm glad Jake made this statement as well. He may never had had a chance with many posters on this board, because their favourite wasn't choosen to be the next bachelor, but in the real world of TV fans Jake is very well liked. I can see some posters changing their perception already, just because of one statement he made.

I had 8 ladies over at my home last night, all of them watch, none of them have any idea about online boards. They are thrilled Jake the pilot will be the bachelor, two of them didn't even know a bachelor was choosen. (its funny to hear one person explain to another which one was Jake from the previous season) This from people who have watched every season.
I'm one of the posters who doesn't like Jake and it has NOTHING to do with my favorite not being chosen. I would have been perfectly fine and looking forward to a season of Kip or Jesse, or even Mark that didn't get enough airtime. I dislike Jake because he came off as a total phony in Jillian's season. From the first night falling all over her (mind you she's not even physically his type), ready to marry her after one date, always being "perfect" when the cameras were rolling, going along with the whole Wes had a gf fiasco, which Wes didn't in the end, the exaggerated crying over the railing just to get a chance to be the next bachelor. I'm not even going to comment on his opinion of Ed and his treatment of women.

The casual fans do not take the amount of time some of us do to study each of the characters ( pitiful, I know ), that's why if you don't know about all of the shenanigans that go on behind the scenes, you'll believe everything you see on the screen, that includes Jake being Mr Nice guy and coming back to "protect" Jillian from Wes. We all here know that was all scripted and not the real reason he came back, but to those fans he's a "hero."

About his statements, he knows exactly what his critics think about him. He's trying to persuade some of us into believing otherwise. He's a very smart man, I'll give him that. JMO
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I'm one of the posters who doesn't like Jake and it has NOTHING to do with my favorite not being chosen. I would have been perfectly fine and looking forward to a season of Kip or Jesse, or even Mark that didn't get enough airtime. I dislike Jake because he came off as a total phony in Jillian's season. From the first night falling all over her (mind you she's not even physically his type), ready to marry her after one date, always being "perfect" when the cameras were rolling, going along with the whole Wes had a gf fiasco, which Wes didn't in the end, the exaggerated crying over the railing just to get a chance to be the next bachelor. I'm not even going to comment on his opinion of Ed and his treatment of women.

The casual fans do not take the amount of time some of us do to study each of the characters ( pitiful, I know ), that's why if you don't know about all of the shenanigans that go on behind the scenes, you'll believe everything you see on the screen, that includes Jake being Mr Nice guy and coming back to "protect" Jillian from Wes. We all here know that was all scripted and not the real reason he came back, but to those fans he's a "hero."

About his statements, he knows exactly what his critics think about him. He's trying to persuade some of us into believing otherwise. He's a very smart man, I'll give him that. JMO
I am pretty sure Jake is not the only one this applies to. Just about every season whe have someone that falls right away. For Jason's season it was Mel so overly jealous after the first date. TPTB show us what/who they want us to see. I am sure it applies to our favorites too. I would bet then even some of our favorites carried out some script also. Every season we have the one that falls to fast, the trouble maker, the one that isn't there to make friends. Noelle said herself she isn't the shy quiet girl they showed her as being.

Let's remember the scripting, editing, excuses work both ways not just for/against are favorites/not liked ones.
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