Byron and Mary - The New Thread - Page 12

weeper84 · 12-02-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonbonlover

whether he was intoxicated or not doesn't make it okay for her to hit him

I don't think anyone would disagree with you. My question is did the "attack" rise to the level of needing to call 911? Was this a true "emergency"? To me, it wouldn't seem so.

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jelle · 12-02-2007, 04:15 PM

But we were not there to know the actual condition of anyone. Byron was sober enough to drive and sober enough to realize an arguement was getting out of hand and wanted to remover himself and Mary. Mary did not seem to have the same realization for whatever reason. Police reports said alcohol was involved. Perhaps the alcohol was with the other couple.

Mary and Byron have lived like a family for the last three years, they will have to figure out some way to deal with the aftermath - too bad the public is so interested. It is part of the Bachelor Curse.

Bonbonlover · 12-02-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by weeper84

I don't think anyone would disagree with you. My question is did the "attack" rise to the level of needing to call 911? Was this a true "emergency"? To me, it wouldn't seem so.

oh yes...and I would agree that doesn't seem to be a true "emergency"

babymay · 12-02-2007, 07:37 PM

It's interesting that Mary was the one arrested for violence. I remember how Byron got during his season and thought man that is an angry drunk. I thought he could be an abusive partner.

meauxwalk · 12-02-2007, 10:46 PM

I've known men who hit women and women who hit men, and while violence in any sense is not o.k. IMO, there definately are extinuating circumstances. All we know is Byron's point of view---Mary very well could have justification.

Bonbonlover · 12-03-2007, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by meauxwalk

I've known men who hit women and women who hit men, and while violence in any sense is not o.k. IMO, there definately are extinuating circumstances. All we know is Byron's point of view---Mary very well could have justification.

...hummmm I will have to think about that one..

angelic_one2002 · 12-03-2007, 03:11 PM

There's no justification though, for hitting anyone...for ANY reason, in my opinion...let alone hitting them and splitting their lip open.

SweetElvira · 12-03-2007, 03:39 PM

I agree, but what's not clear is whether this was one-sided or a shoving match or what. I don't think I have enough information to condemn anyone, although I'd bet my next paycheck that either or both of them could benefit from alcohol counseling.

pminn1608 · 12-03-2007, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by angelic_one2002

There's no justification though, for hitting anyone...for ANY reason, in my opinion...let alone hitting them and splitting their lip open.

Totally agree, only time hitting would be justified is in a self defense in a situation of being accosted. Two people in a relationship should never be hitting each other, walk away or sit down and talk, be adult.

Luvstruck · 12-03-2007, 07:50 PM

I was surprised to hear about this ruccus and feel really sorry for Mary! She was worried about her biological clock and wanted children and now she has wasted several more years apparantly in a bad relationship while her clock was ticking. I doubt we will ever see these two get married and am sad for both of them.

12-02-2007, 04:15 PM	#112
jelle FORT Fogey Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Under the big umbrella Posts: 3,050	Re: Byron and Mary - The New Thread But we were not there to know the actual condition of anyone. Byron was sober enough to drive and sober enough to realize an arguement was getting out of hand and wanted to remover himself and Mary. Mary did not seem to have the same realization for whatever reason. Police reports said alcohol was involved. Perhaps the alcohol was with the other couple. Mary and Byron have lived like a family for the last three years, they will have to figure out some way to deal with the aftermath - too bad the public is so interested. It is part of the Bachelor Curse. __________________ "Know that you are not the master of your days, but the pioneer of their purpose" "My policy: no stone throwing regardless of housing situation." moanamarie

12-02-2007, 07:37 PM	#114
babymay the simple things Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,407	Re: Byron and Mary - The New Thread It's interesting that Mary was the one arrested for violence. I remember how Byron got during his season and thought man that is an angry drunk. I thought he could be an abusive partner. __________________ You've got to kiss a few frogs before you find your prince!

12-02-2007, 10:46 PM	#115
meauxwalk FORT Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 98	Re: Byron and Mary - The New Thread I've known men who hit women and women who hit men, and while violence in any sense is not o.k. IMO, there definately are extinuating circumstances. All we know is Byron's point of view---Mary very well could have justification.

12-03-2007, 03:11 PM	#117
angelic_one2002 Nov. 26 Turkey Day Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 7,342	Re: Byron and Mary - The New Thread There's no justification though, for hitting anyone...for ANY reason, in my opinion...let alone hitting them and splitting their lip open.

12-03-2007, 03:39 PM	#118
SweetElvira I am the Mole Join Date: May 2007 Location: the edge of obscurity Posts: 543	Re: Byron and Mary - The New Thread I agree, but what's not clear is whether this was one-sided or a shoving match or what. I don't think I have enough information to condemn anyone, although I'd bet my next paycheck that either or both of them could benefit from alcohol counseling.

12-03-2007, 07:50 PM	#120
Luvstruck FORT Fogey Join Date: May 2007 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 957	Re: Byron and Mary - The New Thread I was surprised to hear about this ruccus and feel really sorry for Mary! She was worried about her biological clock and wanted children and now she has wasted several more years apparantly in a bad relationship while her clock was ticking. I doubt we will ever see these two get married and am sad for both of them.