John Paul

[kraziladi]

rkknrobin....I get the same feeling too. That it seems to be mirroring the Charlie/Trista/Ryan edit. Jerry is such the front runner and I think he will win, but in the back of my mind I may be hoping this, never been a big Jerry fan, I think JP and Jen would make a better long term match. I personally felt this exact same way with the Charlie/Trista/Ryan epi - that she would choose Charlie, but thought she was a much better match for Ryan.

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[angelic_one2002]

I agree. John Paul is "long-term". He has all but told her he wants to settle down, and he has commented that he could see her being his wife.

[irishgirl1982]

Hey all, I'm so a JP fan since the beginning! But I went to the screencaps forum, and they don't look good for JP. But TPTB have always fooled us before. So I'm hoping they are once again. To me Jerry is Jen's crush, like Charlie was to Trista! Anyone else feel this way? JP just seems like the right one for Jen! Well whatever happens, I'm still a JP fan! Much love for N.C.

[Triskele]

and Double Ditto!

[natashapierre]

Originally Posted by angelic_one2002

I agree. John Paul is "long-term". He has all but told her he wants to settle down, and he has commented that he could see her being his wife.

He has said that. But I don't see why the heck he would *want* her to be his wife. They don't seem to have an ounce of chemistry together, from either side, as far as I can see, and is she really so much greater than other women he's met? I don't see what's gone on between them that's so wonderful, and, in addition, isn't she three years older than he is? That's in no way a deal-breaker, of course, but doesn't it usually give guys pause? I'm not at all sure that John Paul isn't mostly caught up in the moment and overcome by his fightfightfighttowin mentality when it comes to that marriage talk. I don't think he's insincere, really. I think he thinks he means it. But he's been portrayed in articles as a person who has an enormous drive to win and succeed, and I'd say that chances are good that he's a little carried away with that when he's going after Jen on their dates. There are just too many reasons I can see why he *wouldn't* have made the marriage decision about Jen at this point.

[Broadway]

Originally Posted by natashapierre

in addition, isn't she three years older than he is? That's in no way a deal-breaker, of course, but doesn't it usually give guys pause?

Umm, no. I don't think guys are in any way concerned with a woman being older than himself. Guys just aren't that hung up on that stuff and I think you're doing them a big disservice by assuming that they are.

My philosophy on age differences, in either direction? I think once you get beyond college... age is inconsequential when compared to a person's maturity. I fail to see why people are putting such relevance on JP being 25 and Jen 28, as JP is the one that is much more mature than Jen.

And I know there are a number of people on this board that 1) got married very young and 2) are women that married men younger than themselves. I have often been puzzled as to why they aren't speaking up more often in answer to these age assumptions... but then I realized that they just must not watch The Bachelorette. I think it's insulting to make the assumption that a person isn't ready to get married at 25. It's a number, not a personality trait.

[LemonDrop]

Originally Posted by natashapierre

I don't see what's gone on between them that's so wonderful, and, in addition, isn't she three years older than he is? That's in no way a deal-breaker, of course, but doesn't it usually give guys pause?

Three years older? I'm twelve years older than my husband! Why would it give guys pause? Women choose the man didn't you know? If she's "concerned" it's an excuse, not a reason.

[shoepie]

Originally Posted by Netcam

And I'm betting that Jerry is "The Apprentice" on this show! It's more of a 6 week job interview for getting himself into the tv entertainment and/or modelling industry rather than finding true love. If he gets Jen in the end, that's just a bonus prize.

I agree. I do not fault Jerry for that either. Many people apply for reality shows to break into show business. I think he is intrigued and attracted to Jen. It just happened to turn out differently than he expected and no one is more surprized than he.

As far as JP, definately a good man but when the sparks aren't there they just aren't and I don't see them. He is not the guy for Jen but I bet he will have women beating a path to his door when this is complete. AND there will be a lot of interest in his restaurant.

[Minney]

I actually think the JP is being given the "Brooke" edit from Aaron's season. It was constantly being brought up that she was young, but mature for her age. She ended up the runner up. JP is an incredible man and if Jen chooses him because she loves him then that is great, but if she chooses him because he looks good on paper and the home is great and the familly is awesome but she doesn't love him, then it is not good for either one of them. We can't pick who we fall in love with and we can't make ourselves romantically love someone we don't. I personally feel that while his age doesn't matter for defining when a person is ready to settle down and make a life time commitment--life experiences do matter and a few years age difference can be a real factor at this point.

[natashapierre]

Originally Posted by Broadway

Umm, no. I don't think guys are in any way concerned with a woman being older than himself. Guys just aren't that hung up on that stuff and I think you're doing them a big disservice by assuming that they are.

Well, some are and some aren't. I'm not assuming. I'm basing my remarks on experience, also, and experience involving more than one guy. It definitely does cross the minds of *some* -- not all -- men. ... As I said, I agree that it's in no way a dealbreaker.

My main point is -- What the heck has he seen that has him talking marriage at this point, and people believing it? Same with Ryan, actually.

When there's no visible chemistry -- and since Jen appears a little blah and self-centered to us -- what makes anyone believe that John Paul or Ryan is actually *seriously* thinking of marriage with her at this point? Seems to me that they think she's cute and kind of nice but when it comes to offering marriage, which they both seemed to do, they are mostly just caught up in the moment. I can't even say they're caught up in the *lust* because I just don't see it.