Does everyone remember the bloopers they showed on the "After the Final Rose" show from Andrew's season? They were funny and enjoyable, and made the people look so real. Wouldn't it be great if ABC could keep the 'real' in 'reality tv' and actually show what they considered bloopers?
My other favorite was from Blob's show, when the rose fell off the stem and Blob deadpanned "would you accept this stem?" I wonder if we would have ended the season hating him less if we'd gotten to see more episodes like that.
I remember watching an E! True Hollywood Story about the 70's sitcom "All in the Family" and they interview the fabulous Caroll O'Connor who was talking about how terrified CBS was to show the Archie Bunker character in all his glory, using racial slurs and making conservative social commentary. Apparently they'd hired a huge number of extra switchboard operators in anticipation of the network getting angry phone calls from viewers. And it never happened. O'connor points out that the network had simply underestimated the audience, he said that they thought the viewing public was a bunch of dumbells, but they weren't, they got the joke.
I think ABC has done the same thing. They've underestimated the audience and what we want to see, and are willing to accept in the name of reality.
Unlike so many others here, I have sources to back me up: US Magazine Feb 23, Chris is asked "Ok, so who ends up with Meredith?" He replies..she's very happy and very much in love....Meredith is the most real person who's done this. You can tell how sincere she was." Also, if you read the ABC boards and Chris Harrison boards, he is quoted from radio shows as being very complimentary of her. And, finally, at the end of the last few rose ceremonies, he pats her on the back to calm her because he knows she feels bad about letting some of the guys go.
Originally Posted by baxpup
Compare how CH can barely stand to be in the same room as Jesse. The same ability to read non-verbal signals that screamed "Meredith will choose Ian." to me allows me to read CH's non-verbals as well.
I stand by my earlier comment.
Last edited by Frecklepup; 05-18-2004 at 09:09 AM.
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I HATE Moguls
realistically, i don't see how anyone can expect 'chemistry' and/or 'falling in love' on these fake shows
think about it... this show is elimidate with a higher budget
people should take these type of shows as just entertainment and laugh at the contestants rediculous behavior and not watch it with the 'hopeless romantic' kind of thinking
what are the real chances of a person being thrown into a room with 25 random members of the opposite sex; and every damn time they have 'connections' let alone want to 'spend the rest of their life' with one of em
and in a real conversation with someone you meet in real life, how many times do the words 'amazing' and 'journey' come up in our dialogue
you can't even say that the producers look for women that are the bachelors type based on what he says he likes.. because all they do every season is toss on some interchangable blondes, 2 blacks, etc .. The 'psychological' tests they conduct during interviews aren't there to weed out crazy people, but to find them
everything is so fake, that its funny... ABC can care less about chemistry, there only concern is creating a show hopefully with a villian, hottub boob shots, and makeout sessions, thats all they need for viewership and advertizers
Here's my take. First of all you all make very good points, now I'll add mine.
First of all, I do believe there is chemistry between Jesse and Tara. I'm not quite sure what is happening between Jessica and Jesse although I would speculate that their relationship is more of a "crush" and more physical then anything else.
The other point is that the editing for this bachelor series has been really awful. The whole emphasis on Trish really took away from the purpose of the show for me. They hardly showed any of the home dates and really haven't delved into the potential "Chemistry" between Jesse and the remaining ladies. I think this is sad and has cheapened the show. ABC should be ashamed. This was all about ratings with the whole Trish thing. It isn't about what the show was meant for.
I really hope that I'm right about Tara and Jesse. I just think there's an underlying chemistry that we just haven't had a chance to see.
I respectfully disagree
I think viewers tune into this show to watch people find love. That's why we're so disappointed with this season and with Blob's and why [heaven help us] we watched Trista's wedding. ABC hyped that wedding to high heaven, and paid Trista $1M for it, precisely because she did fall in love and promote the notion that you can find love this way. The reason we want to follow these characters beyond the Final Rose is that we do want them to stay together, we do want to belive in love.
Originally Posted by Dogg
I totally agree with all of your comments, Six Degrees. We all assume that there was simply no substance, no chemistry, no nothing in all of the contenders and in the bach this go-around. That may be true. But I doubt it. Witness how they turned Mandy J (my favorite) into a one-dimensional pageant Barbie doll. Perhaps the producers thought they had a great find in Trish, a villainess like never before, and so they went with this as the main storyline, even manipulating the fantasy dates so that the date with the woman to whom J was seemingly the least attracted (also Mandy J) got "crashed." (In previous Baches, they've at least given a fantasy date to an exotic locale to the loser as a kind of consolation prize.) In all of the Trish hype, they lost sight of what the series was all about: the possibility of finding love. I think that may be why we're so disappointed with this series: the love storyline is such a subplot that we don't even care about whom he might choose.
Well here's my opinion for what it's worth. I see the show as both entertainment and the chance to see a love grow. I can see where it would be hard for ABC to divulge too much of a connection between Jesse and just one of the girls because that would pretty much give away the ending and people would be complaining about that. I think there needs to be an after the final rose show that does show the chemistry developing between Jesse and the one he chooses. This is a different show than Meredith/Ian(thank goodness) and Andrew/Jen(aah) but I am just as into it as I was those. I think Jesse seems pretty great and both of the final girls seem to be a good choice(I do have my favorite). Oh well, just felt like I had to vent.
I agree with that too! Doesn't it also seem like Chris hates Trish?
Originally Posted by Frecklepup
I hated how they treated Mandy too! She didn't deserve to be made to come across as some kind of pageant princess... I think she had a lot of class... (the kind of class someone like Trish could only dream of ever having!) I also thought some of Jesse's comments about Mandy lacked class!
Originally Posted by bamabrain
ETA - Sorry to be hogging the thread!!
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