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    Quote Originally Posted by shubie127
    I'm sure some of it can be attributed to editing, but like we said with Leeann, you can't edit words into someone's mouth.
    No, but you can take stuff out of context.

    Example:
    Trish says, "I knew this girl in college who was a total gold-digger and proud of it, if you called her on it she would say 'Yes, I'm a gold-digging, money-grubbing, whore', I don't know how someone can be like that.

    After editing Trish says, "Yes, I'm a gold-digging money-grubbing whore".


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    As someone who has followed reality TV for a long time , I always go back to the words of another co- founder of this site who stated long ago
    " You can't edit in a bad personality"
    I've seen it over and over. Someone shows up on a show in a not too favorable light , and cops out with a " It was the editing".
    We even have it written into our website FAQ so that family members/friends/fans don't bombard us with the " Why are you are so mean to contestant XXX ?"

    Sorry , with this girl I don't buy it.

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    I have felt we're seeing a double standard at work, too. Maybe the criticism is dealed out a little more equally on this forum, but the portrayal of Trish, the sound bytes they are giving us, and the seemingly scandalised reactions of the other girls (virgins one and all, I'm sure) shows us that this double standard is still vary much alive in pop culture. Trish isn't being trashed as just Trish, but as representative of something much bigger, like the Man-Eater, the Whore, the Home-wrecker.

    I'm not crazy about her, personally, but I don't care if she's slept with 30-something guys. Sleeping with a married man could be an issue for me, but as someone else pointed out, we don't know if he was two weeks away from divorce, or the boundaries of his marriage, etc. In the footage I saw, she rolled her eyes when this question came up, and I didn't like it, but again, I don't know if she rolled her eyes because she really doesn't give a damn if the guy's married, or because she knew that, whatever the man's circumstances, or even if it was something she did 15 years ago, regretted and would never do again, it wouldn't matter to the other women. Maybe she was just rolling her eyes at the sanctimonious attitude in the room. ON the other hand, she seems to be two-sided, too.

    As some others have pointed out, Trish is defenitely over-the-top in how she presents herself. This is not exactly to my taste, but I have also wondered how serious she is about it all, how much might just be bravura or what she thinks is funny, and how much is to throw off the other girls. For example, when she says, "I'm fabulous", it's cocky, and I sure wouldn't say that in that situation, but as a model, from Miami, I suspect that she is part of a sub-ciulture where talking that way is not considered offensive. As for saying "I'm a gold-digging...whore", does she really consider herself that, or does she know that that is how other people will characterize her, so she says it first?

    All that being said, I do think that, underneath it all, she is probably an empty and unhappy person.

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    My take on why women hate Trish....

    Ok, here goes - there are always a certain number of "Trish types" out there and the other women ALWAYS hate or strongly dislike them. Bottom line, Trish is a beautiful, sexy woman who can easily bat her eyes at most guys and they'll go all google-eyed. It's pheromones or something. The "Trishers" aren't interested in the various guys, but it's a type of power play unique to women. Other women, resent the power that these Trishers have and the claws automatically come out. However, women don't like to admit that they can't always compete on that level so they fall back on calling Trisher's tramps, hos, etc.

    The Trishers are typically insecure and need constant attention, which is why they feel the need to seduce any guy that comes across their path. And a married man? Why do you think they call them "homewreckers"? She probably didn't even CARE about the guy, just wanted the "rush" of conquering a married man.
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    I missed this episode, but if Trish confessed to being a gold digging money grubbing whore and sleeping with 35 men and one married men, kudos for her. How refreshing to see some honesty and self-deprecation on the bachelor show. Usually it's the quiet virginal ones you usually have to watch out for, beware the scorpion that's hides behind the buddha's face. I'm sure Jesse's has had far more sexual encounters than Trish, and why is it ok for a man to be promiscuous but not a woman. The onus for the married affair falls on the married partner, he made the vows not Trish. I love her for saying she won't settle and she doesn't want kids, why is that so wrong not to want kids. She sounds really honest and that's hard to find, so I hope she's around for awhile. I mean once you hit a certain age, and you don't have any history or baggage, I would get really suspicious. At least she wears hers up front and knows what she wants. Marry rich, hire a nanny and a trainer, have to love her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBmumsie
    Ok, here goes - there are always a certain number of "Trish types" out there and the other women ALWAYS hate or strongly dislike them. Bottom line, Trish is a beautiful, sexy woman who can easily bat her eyes at most guys and they'll go all google-eyed. It's pheromones or something. The "Trishers" aren't interested in the various guys, but it's a type of power play unique to women. Other women, resent the power that these Trishers have and the claws automatically come out. However, women don't like to admit that they can't always compete on that level so they fall back on calling Trisher's tramps, hos, etc.

    The Trishers are typically insecure and need constant attention, which is why they feel the need to seduce any guy that comes across their path. And a married man? Why do you think they call them "homewreckers"? She probably didn't even CARE about the guy, just wanted the "rush" of conquering a married man.
    EXACTLY!

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    I don't think Trish has "psychological problems" because she is sexually active, that is just a bizarre theory. What, because someone is what some people would call promiscuous they have "low self-esteem" and are "attention seeking." Me thinks not. She's obviously very confident and comfortable enough with herself to joke about it. I mean I've never heard anyone refer to Hugh Hefner as having major low self-esteem and psychological problems because of his sex life, and it in no way compares to Trish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotuslander
    I mean I've never heard anyone refer to Hugh Hefner as having major low self-esteem and psychological problems because of his sex life, and it in no way compares to Trish.
    HUH? Of course you can't compare Hugh Hefner & Trish!
    Does HH have psychological problems? I (obviously) don't know him, but I'd say he does... he's certainly not "normal"! He has a harem!!!

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    I think she is attention seeking. So what if she slept with 35 or 100. It's the fact she brags about it like a new Prada dress.
    "Hey look at me"

    I was nauseated by Jesse's blasť sports guy yeah I'm sick of a different ho in my bed all the time confession as well. If any of the bachelors had come on air and said yup I've nailed 35 so far, and my perfect wife is rich,gorgeous, implanted, trained like a porn star ,ditzy and I'm not settling for any less, I'd be just as disgusted.

    Good for Trish if she knows what she wants. But I wouldn't share my past with a bunch of strangers, especially with a camera stuck in my face. I can't think of any instance where it would work it's way into a conversation. If I were asked , I'd simply say it's none of your *&^ business. Out of 125 Bachelorettes , she's the only one who has crowed her conquests (although the virgin rate in that group was probably pretty low.) If that doesn't indicate a bit of attention seeking , I really don't know what does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotuslander
    I love her for saying she won't settle and she doesn't want kids, why is that so wrong not to want kids. She sounds really honest and that's hard to find, so I hope she's around for awhile.

    Well personally, my only problem with the kids issue is that Jesse seems really sure that he wants a big family with kids, and Trish doesn't want them at all. Both of these things are just fine, but they don't exactly go together.

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