***SPOILERS***Show Discussion Feb8/10

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Originally Posted by smartguy24;3821758;

Given my personal "guy" experience with crying, I don't think it was trying to make them fall as much as it was trying to prevent them from falling.

This is of course taking into account that I'm choosing to accept the situation as it was presented and at face value. :lol

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I'll take your word for it, smartguy. I could think really hard about how I stem a swell of tears but that thought alone is too much brainpower for this season. :)

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Originally Posted by Love_Me;3821766;

Me too very telling. Also, I thought in that moment with Ali in her hometown date he was about to say "Marry Me Ali" , but stoped himself. I think he liked Tenely's dad more than he liked her. She talked about the ex-husband way too much and if I was Jake that would get very old.

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I agree with all you said.

Yes, Tenley mentioning her ex was shown a lot. Maybe that will be the excuse Jake gives her - that her heart isn't yet healed from that breakup.

okay so Jake has said that he has been "to He11 and back"... so did he go to he11 toningt??

I think the Hell is what the other women put him through for even considering Vienna.

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Originally Posted by nutty1;3821769;

I agree with all you said.

Yes, Tenley mentioning her ex was shown a lot. Maybe that will be the excuse Jake gives her - that her heart isn't yet healed from that breakup.

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Reminds me of Danielle on HDDA's season--her fiance's death.

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Originally Posted by nutty1;3821764;

No way could I read all 26 pages - so who would have gone tonight if Ali stayed? If I didn't know Vienna won, I would have said Vienna. After watching the end clip of Gia's mom and the card reading, I almost think it would have been Gia.

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I think Gia was very insecure tonight. She sould have been more secure with her family there to support her. Gia's brother saying he will break Jake's legs after only knowing him for a couple of hours was a turn off. I think Gia would have not recieved a rose, but I wish it would have been Vienna.

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Originally Posted by Love_Me;3821644;

Ali will be the next bachelorette and Jake will be the villian. Not Surpised.

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I hope not! I'm pulling for Gia at this point. :)

I think Ali will be the next bachette they set it up perfectly for her to be tonight she will probably quit her job to be the lead

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Originally Posted by pattycake92;3821765;

Ali seemed more devastated than Jake. But if he still misses her after a few days in paradise with those other girls then maybe they can have another shot. We'll just have to wait and see. They def. want us to think she is coming back! Are Jake's parents going to meet the f2. Maybe they will talk some sense into him.

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Per RS Ali doesn't come back. They want us to think that, but she isn't.

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Originally Posted by seeker;3821762;

What hell did Jake go to and back with Vienna that it spells "love story" and getting it right if she is f1?

Jake telling Ali he wanted her to stay or he would be devastated, Ali doubting if she made the right decision, plus the "staged" phone call, if she showed up in that helicopter at the finale and he chose her in the end, it would be a "shocker" that would have the veteran sleuthers and posters heads spin 360 degrees.:laugh. Now that would be a "to hell and back" and finally moving on with the love of your life. He said something about a ring and looking her in the eye in a positive way. Was this the "comeback" Jake was talking about?

Did he ask for permission to marry from anyone but Tenley's Dad that was aired? The chemistry with Tenley and Gia seemed forced (decided to skip the Princess HTD:nod) this episode.

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That was the hell and back I was speaking of. (with Ali, not Vienna)