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    Quote Originally Posted by veg_out;3804746;
    Precisely, jlccaz, precisely. He dangles the idea of it in front of you; he has us exactly where he wants us, waiting for the day we can watch a love story. When a love connection does work out, we never see those moments.

    But we'll keep watching and waiting. Terrible
    He'd better give us a love story soon, it's becoming too Jerry Springer-like and it won't be long before they won't get any guys or girls of quality (they're getting scarcer with every season) to even appear on the show. Fleiss has no clue that we actually want another Ryan and Trista ( I won't complain if they throw in the odd "Trish" though lol) and giving us too much drama will turn the show into trash... I think the Bach needs new blood in the production staff
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernviewer;3804759;
    He'd better give us a love story soon, it's becoming too Jerry Springer-like and it won't be long before they won't get any guys or girls of quality (they're getting scarcer with every season) to even appear on the show. Fleiss has no clue that we actually want another Ryan and Trista ( I won't complain if they throw in the odd "Trish" though lol) and giving us too much drama will turn the show into trash... I think the Bach needs new blood in the production staff
    Yeah I agree, the way Fliess is focusing on the drama/cat fighting it makes it less enjoyable to watch... That's why I enjoy the bachette more...the guys don't take it to this level and it doesn't hurt to watch all the shirtless hunks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlccaz;3804673;
    They also want horny men to watch and rate the girls. He wants the cynics and skeptics and realists. The MAIN demographic may be middle aged women wanting True Love, but to get up over 7-8mm viewers a night they have to have different plot elements.

    The business of TV explains everything.
    Well, I have to give them marks this season -- for years, my husband has sat in the room with me and listened to the show while on his laptop. Until this season. The season premiere previews piqued his interest and he actually put the laptop aside this past episode and says he wants to know how the rest of the season plays out. Now that he's actually paying attention, I'm not sure how I feel...esp. since we disagree about some of the girls-LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by one71721;3804787;
    Yeah I agree, the way Fliess is focusing on the drama/cat fighting it makes it less enjoyable to watch...
    I agree but maybe there isn't much romance to focus on this season... This is a catty group of girls... and a milk-toast kind of guy
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    Quote Originally Posted by cantstopwatchin;3804798;
    Well, I have to give them marks this season -- for years, my husband has sat in the room with me and listened to the show while on his laptop. Until this season. The season premiere previews piqued his interest and he actually put the laptop aside this past episode and says he wants to know how the rest of the season plays out. Now that he's actually paying attention, I'm not sure how I feel...esp. since we disagree about some of the girls-LOL!
    Will you share some of your husband's thoughts about the girls with us? It's good to hear a man's point of view, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonbonlover;3804803;
    I agree but maybe there isn't much romance to focus on this season... This is a catty group of girls... and a milk-toast kind of guy
    I don't know Vienna was swooning when she came home from her date. Ali's date from our perspective seemed very good and her reaction to Vienna alludes to the fact that she likes Jake and hates Vienna even more now that she got the date rose.. so I think there are feelings developing.

    Milk toast kind of guy.. I'm going to have to remember that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonbonlover;3804803;
    I agree but maybe there isn't much romance to focus on this season... This is a catty group of girls... and a milk-toast kind of guy
    And the dates have been stale and boring.
    How many helicopter dates do we need? Or bungee jumping? The concert thing has run it's course, too.
    HDDA had an innovative date season. I enjoyed the iron man competition and the boot camp. Or Matt's circus and horse racing that was a bit new.
    They need some fresh ideas.
    That's why the different locales add some interest--and this season--eh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GuardianAngel;3804614;
    These are my thoughts and I don't intend to convince anyone otherwise. I believe, they have the ability to showcase a fan favourite, that happened very quickly here with Ali. Once that has been established, the real connection they are showing us is plain as day, however it is not seen by most because all they see is their fan favourite and the F1 usually has some sort of drama attached to them so it couldn't possibly be them.

    Suddenly, viewers feel "they are hiding the chemistry". This has happened season after season, however Jillian's season was the worst ever with Reid IMO. To this day, people are convinced Jillian would have chosen Reid if CH hadn't stepped in. I knew all along, with many others, without a doubt Ed was F1 from the begining.

    When I saw the bungie jumping date, when I saw Jakes reaction when someone speaks poorly of Vienna, I'm pretty sure she is F1, as much as I want RS to be wrong, not because I don't want V to win, I don't have any favourites, but just because I want RS to be wrong.
    I see what both you and veg_out see. I will take it a step further and say, so far, I feel Gia is F2. The only sc making Tenley F2 is suspect as the woman is not seen clearly. Everyone is just taking RS's word that that is fact. So far Tenley has the F3 edit. Unless it changes, I will stick to the facts I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Living;3804816;
    I will take it a step further and say, so far, I feel Gia is F2. The only sc making Tenley F2 is suspect as the woman is not seen clearly. Everyone is just taking RS's word that that is fact. So far Tenley has the F3 edit. Unless it changes, I will stick to the facts I see.
    I was literally going to post the exact same thing just now.Tenely's edit so far is that of an F3 and Gia's edit is more of a F2 edit.I don't see Gia's edit as a F3 edit.Nor do I see Tenely's edit as a F2 edit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by one71721;3804619;
    Fliess will never, ever in a million years show us a true love story.. he has said over and over in interviews that isn't what the viewers want (what does he know) and it isn't what keeps us tuning in.. It's the drama that keeps us tuning in..

    He doesn't know his audience very well. I'd like to knock some sense into him because we WANT to see a love story.. this trickery he pulls on us season after season after season is getting OLD.
    On the other hand, I believe he knows his audience. They claim they want something but the other dating shows are not as exciting as this. The tabloid and the boards go crazy about situations on TB. It's better than soap and cheaper. Why should he change the format when all people are taling about the going ons on TB. Ratings, money. Fliess has got it right. We say we want a plain love story. When we get it, we will stop watching and where will the money machine be!!!

    On the other hand, he gives us a plain love story, and we do not want to see it. We want the 'star' to choose the person we want or else!! More ratings, more money.................

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