Thread: Bachelor 14 Jake Pavelka **Sleuthing** SPOILERS**

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdl;3774360;
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    I've got no beef with Jake. I've known a 100 Jakes. They were all ok.
    Where I go off the rails is when TPTB start trying to turn Jake, or any Bachelor/B'ette, into someone who they are not.
    They are not perfect.
    They are not all that successful.
    America did not "fall in love with them."
    Not every girl wants to instantly marry them.
    So stop saying it, and I'll quit complaining about it.
    You know, the best reality show I've ever seen was More to Love. Take out the self pity and crying scenes, and that show was pretty real. A couple of very nice imperfect people who clicked in a fairly natural setting. They didn't last forever but nobody was phony about it.
    It seems like TB used to be more like that, but now everything seems fake. Or maybe I just lost my innocence.
    I don't care if Jake is short, and I don't care if he wears elevators shoes either. I don't care if he works out to make his body look better - in fact, I think that's admirable to take what he's got and make the best of it.

    What I don't like and won't like ( and you know I can squawk with the best of them over an abused principle) is if the producers somehow manipulate Jake with the naive Church boy image into selecting Gia with her softporn positions on the Miss Bikini USA 2008 site as well as the Maxim poses.

    That would be reality trashy and controversial and probably right down Fleiss's alley the way he has said he likes it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloomers;3774394;
    When you read the comments made about some of the Bachelorettes on some of the sites, the point is clearly made by people who know them that they are solid, practicing Christians. Since that has not particularly been a positive point for contenders in the past seasons , and since neither Kip nor Reid particularly associated themselves with Church, but Jake has been associated with Church, I am thinking that the girls were cast for him and not for Kip or Reid. Also, it would seem a bit ironic to purposefully cast solid practicing Christian women to contend for a Jewish Bachelor no matter how desirable Reid might be!
    If this is the case, I am glad to hear it. Let's hope Jake chooses a good church-going woman since this is what he professes to be (not the woman part, of course!), and is not distracted by all the silicone. I have always felt that a shared degree of religiosity, regardless of denomination, was an important factor in making a marriage work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor;3774323;
    There's a few things I am not getting........

    What's so wrong with Jake being nice. Why do so many think it's an act. He could very well be a genuinely, nice, easy going guy. I think it could be intimidating for some women...I could see someone saying to a friend...."I keep waiting for the real him to show". But maybe this is the real him. He just seems like a nice southern guy, I saw Brad Womack in some of the same light. Limiting the kissing, no sex on the FD, no one chewed that apart. Brad was also honest enough to pick no one when that was how he really felt. Jake's a nice, decent guy (for my sisters sakes I wish there were more of them) and he's emotional, doesn't make him bad.

    So what if he's nolt really tall. I for one am 6'3" but I don't think Jake is less of a man cause he's under six feet tall. If people think his height is somehow against him, remember good things come in small packages,....

    Maybe that'/s a bad things about recycling someone from a previous show, people grab onto pre-determined ideas about them.

    I just had to log in and get this off my chest. Maybe for once a nice guy will finish first and be someone's hero in all of this. Sorry if I upset anyone, this is all JMO, and I just feel like the guy needs to be given a break.
    Trevor, I agree with most of your points. Hopefully, this will remind everyone, that people are different, in size shape personality and occupation. No one charachteristic is better than the next.

    People might have different opinions of what they prefer as their life long partner but that doesn't mean we all have to agree.

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    Re: Bachelor 14 Jake Pavelka **Sleuthing** SPOILERS**

    Quote Originally Posted by Bloomers;3774394;
    When you read the comments made about some of the Bachelorettes on some of the sites, the point is clearly made by people who know them that they are solid, practicing Christians. Since that has not particularly been a positive point for contenders in the past seasons , and since neither Kip nor Reid particularly associated themselves with Church, but Jake has been associated with Church, I am thinking that the girls were cast for him and not for Kip or Reid. Also, it would seem a bit ironic to purposefully cast solid practicing Christian women to contend for a Jewish Bachelor no matter how desirable Reid might be!
    It seems many of the women knew that Jake would be The Bachelor and that is why they auditioned. I'm sure that is not the only reason for some of them though. lol

    According to executive producer Martin Hilton, this season has some of the best casting yet. Why? Because when several of the ladies learned that "The Bachelor" was Jake, they decided to audition for the series because they were attracted to him from what they had seen last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanlee;3774411;
    It seems many of the women knew that Jake would be The Bachelor and that is why they auditioned. I'm sure that is not the only reason for some of them though. lol
    My point is that regardless of how people "view" Jake ( like or dislike him), the evidence appears to be mounting up that the girls were cast specifically for him.
    I hate to even bring up the height issue again ( I am 5'2 and almost all guys are taller than I), but it also appears that by far and away the majority of the women are on the shorter side since even in their tallest heels, they don't top him. I think this is another evidence that they cast the women particularly for Jake.

    I do think it is a shame, though, that as many contenders as we usually have from Texas, they couldn't find even one for him to consider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloomers;3774414;
    My point is that regardless of how people "view" Jake ( like or dislike him), the evidence appears to be mounting up that the girls were cast specifically for him.
    I hate to even bring up the height issue again ( I am 5'2 and almost all guys are taller than I), but it also appears that by far and away the majority of the women are on the shorter side since even in their tallest heels, they don't top him. I think this is another evidence that they cast the women particularly for Jake.

    I do think it is a shame, though, that as many contenders as we usually have from Texas, they couldn't find even one for him to consider.
    That is a pity. Maybe they just thought that would make it too easy.

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    So I was looking through pictures of Stow Lake (Golden Gate Park) for the log walk picture. And I found one that has a broken off log with reeds near it the same shape as in the picture. But there isn't enough in the picture to make a match. But it seems possible. Don't know how to post links yet but add http:// in the front and .jpg in the back. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Stow_Lake_with_pagoda,_pigeons _and_the_Moon

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    Looking at the spoiler photos, Jake looks like he's about 5'9" or 5' 10". Just looking at the pic of him and Ed & Jill, Ed is pretty tall, and his torso is much longer than Jake's as are his legs.

    Interesting, I never paid attention to this until y'all brought it up.

    If he truly doesn't find love, and is known for being "picky," then I think he is looking for the "perfect" woman who doesn't exist, thus the reason he isn't married, like his siblings.

    He seems like a nice guy, but viewing someone on TV with cameras in their face all the time, you aren't necessarily going to get the complete personality. At least maybe not in Jake's case.

    You know, I finally wanna believe that a Bachelor is going to find the right girl, MARRY HER and live happily ever after............like Trista and Ryan.

    When will it be? You really can't use Byron and Mary, it's been too long, and I don't see a wedding in sight.

    With as much as Reality Steve has pointed out it's all about the ratings, and the show proving it season after season... I still have hope everytime these shows air. How sad is that?

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    I'll try to bring it over, Tigger.
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    Re: Bachelor 14 Jake Pavelka **Sleuthing** SPOILERS**

    Quote Originally Posted by sdl;3774360;
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    I've got no beef with Jake. I've known a 100 Jakes. They were all ok.
    Where I go off the rails is when TPTB start trying to turn Jake, or any Bachelor/B'ette, into someone who they are not.
    They are not perfect.
    They are not all that successful.
    America did not "fall in love with them."
    Not every girl wants to instantly marry them.
    So stop saying it, and I'll quit complaining about it.
    You know, the best reality show I've ever seen was More to Love. Take out the self pity and crying scenes, and that show was pretty real. A couple of very nice imperfect people who clicked in a fairly natural setting. They didn't last forever but nobody was phony about it.
    It seems like TB used to be more like that, but now everything seems fake. Or maybe I just lost my innocence.

    You got it right as far as I am concerned. The show lost its innocence if it ever really had it and so did many of us along with it. So if some of us tend to snark, posters, please understand we've become cynical over the years, perhaps too much so.

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