Thread: Bachelor 14 Jake Pavelka **Sleuthing** SPOILERS**

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    Quote Originally Posted by I'msotired;3841648;
    Geesh, I sure hope so, nutty. I honestly don't care who he ends up, but I was surprised to see the feelings develop for Vienna. They're obviously there, though. (Just like last B'ette, I didn't like Ed but couldn't deny the attraction.)

    What I find ironic is that the "trashy" MO of Fleiss's last few seasons seems to be cranking out the longer lasting relationships. Go figure!
    A look at history shows that persecuted people often struggle through their trials and come out stronger and more victorious.

    Perhaps the intense criticism bonds these couples more closely together, and/or perhaps it develops in them as a couple an attitude of "us against the world."
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    Re: Bachelor 14 Jake Pavelka **Sleuthing** SPOILERS**

    Quote Originally Posted by Bloomers;3841662;
    A look at history shows that persecuted people often struggle through their trials and come out stronger and more victorious.

    Perhaps the intense criticism bonds these couples more closely together, and/or perhaps it develops in them as a couple an attitude of "us against the world."
    I think you may be right.

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    Re: Bachelor 14 Jake Pavelka **Sleuthing** SPOILERS**

    Quote Originally Posted by Bloomers;3841662;
    A look at history shows that persecuted people often struggle through their trials and come out stronger and more victorious.

    Perhaps the intense criticism bonds these couples more closely together, and/or perhaps it develops in them as a couple an attitude of "us against the world."
    Well it seemed to work for Jill and Ed & Molly and Jason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanlee;3841359;
    Are ya'll saying that ya'll won't even sneak a peek at who RS says is the F1? I would HAVE to peek!!!
    I'd love to say that I wouldn't sneak a peak but that would be another big fat lie.I like RS not knowing the F2,F3,F4 so we can slueth it out.I'd be okay with him spilling the F1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I'msotired;3841644;
    I can't help but wonder if the production team was just as surprised.
    me thinks so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanlee;3841664;
    Well it seemed to work for Jill and Ed & Molly and Jason.
    And I really hope that Jake and Vienna can withstand the trials that come their way.
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    Re: Bachelor 14 Jake Pavelka **Sleuthing** SPOILERS**

    While the girls most likely do get caught up in "The Win"... the whole idea of engagement is supposed to be a two way street. She should be choosing the Bachelor just as much as he is choosing the 'ette. So... now this is somewhat convoluted, but stick with me ... If Jake had ended up with Ali, or chosen Tenley as his F1 (or any number of the great girls that were on the show) I would be smacking my head wondering how could she choose to be with him??? She is way too good for him. The good thing about this season is that I am not smacking myself. I think Jake and Vienna are both floating at the same level.
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    Re: Bachelor 14 Jake Pavelka **Sleuthing** SPOILERS**

    Quote Originally Posted by Bloomers;3841662;
    A look at history shows that persecuted people often struggle through their trials and come out stronger and more victorious.

    Perhaps the intense criticism bonds these couples more closely together, and/or perhaps it develops in them as a couple an attitude of "us against the world."
    I want to preface my response, Bloomers, by saying I'm not anti-Vienna (nor am I pro-Vienna or any other B'ette this season).

    The "persecution" in the tabloids, however, seems to have come after he chose Vienna as his F1. Unless Jake feels he persecuted Wes, I don't see the women's reaction to Vienna rising to that level while he was still filming.

    You could be right, though, about it making their bond stronger post-airing of the first episode.
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    Re: Bachelor 14 Jake Pavelka **Sleuthing** SPOILERS**

    Quote Originally Posted by Starshine_16;3841667;
    And I really hope that Jake and Vienna can withstand the trials that come their way.
    We are about to see what they can or can't do. IMO, they have to shut out all the negative people, media, etc. They also need to remember what Jill said about herself and Ed. The engagement at the rose ceremony, was the beginning of their relationship together as a couple. Ed needed to put aside the rest of the show and her "supposedly affections" for the others, and Jill needed to stand by Ed and put aside B & L. They needed to focus on each other and how their families were holding up, etc. and forge ahead. Obviously it worked and is working for them. Now Jake and Vienna need to do basically the same thing. Concentrate on themselves as a couple and strengthen their relationship with each other, to heck what the rest of the world thinks. The rest of the world is not living their lives now, nor will we live their lives in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I'msotired;3841671;
    I want to preface my response, Bloomers, by saying I'm not anti-Vienna (nor am I pro-Vienna or any other B'ette this season).

    The "persecution" in the tabloids, however, seems to have come after he chose Vienna as his F1. Unless Jake feels he persecuted Wes, I don't see the women's reaction to Vienna rising to that level while he was still filming.

    You could be right, though, about it making their bond stronger post-airing of the first episode.
    "Persecuted" as in the media with Jason/Molly and Jillian/Ed.
    I wasn't thinking about the girls in the house.
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