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    Quote Originally Posted by jelle;3817657;
    I would really like to have someone - anyone - here tell me that they have actually seen any pictures of Vienna other than the one callendar picture.

    I would like to know where I can view these porno pictures and videos that she enjoys doing.

    I am so tired of all the rumors, that I would just like to either have them confirmed or go away. In every season there is always someone whose ex-something delights in posting trash which immediately is reprinted a gazillion times. The person is never able to refute any of it that people will believe. It is just a stupid show, and all I want to know is what is on the screen, unless it is going to hurt me or friends of mine.
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    I personally saw a topless (not scarf) photo taken on a beach. The series was being offered for sale for $12,500.
    It's not a myth. Where the photos went after that I don't know and don't care, because I'm not a part of it.

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    OK sdl my friend
    Now we have a callendar shoot, pre-show boyfriend pics, and one boobie shot. Tell me was it really Hustler porno stuff? and then I'll shut up!

    $12,500 sight unseen Wonder if he really thought you would bite - amazing
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsDll;3817721;
    The only picture we see is a picture with her standing in profile with a scarf covering her dangly bits. It isn't full frontal nude. It was published in a calendar and I'm sure the other months' beauties looked the same. It was a calendar shoot. It was not Penthouse, Playboy or Hustler! It is apples to apples in my mind. What those who despise Vienna think is trashy, others would just say "mef", its no skin off my back. And with that, its my last word on the skin 'flicks/photos' rumor.
    Well that's what makes this place so great The varying opinions and perceptions. Everyone is a measure of their experience and teachings in life, which lets us all measure things with a different yardstick. Personally I think it's crude, unrefined, and lacking in discrimination and sensibility. But what i think matters not, I'm just wondering how much it'll matter to mother. And it's not just the pics, there are pleanty of reasons I wouldn't want any of my 3 sons trotting her through my door.

    Part of me feels a little sorry for her, but they were her choices, all of them [including the boyfriend-boobie-shots]. Hopefully she'll learn from them. Unfortunately mistakes are sometimes forever in this high tech world. I've taught that to all of my children. College recruiters, prospective employers... to immortalize yourself this way can have far reaching consequences.
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    If these topless beach photos were private, meant for one person only, and are now being sold to whoever will fork over a great deal of $$ just to oggle her naked, well, that's disgusting and vile. To blame her for this, saying she gets what she deserves, is nothing more than blaming the victim in my mind. She may have never thought they would be seen by anyone else.

    To all the young women out there: DON'T allow anyone to film you, photograph you, record you, or even draw a picture of you naked, ok? It's not worth it and you can't trust anyone, especially in the youtube generation.

    To all the guys who would fork over $12,000 to view naked pictures of a reality tv contestant: you're sleazy and you have too much $$ on your hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetpea;3817733;
    If these topless beach photos were private, meant for one person only, and are now being sold to whoever will fork over a great deal of $$ just to oggle her naked, well, that's disgusting and vile. To blame her for this, saying she gets what she deserves, is nothing more than blaming the victim in my mind. She may have never thought they would be seen by anyone else.
    I can't speak for everyone else, but I don't think Vienna "deserves" having the pics made public at all - and I kind of feel bad for her that they will likely become very public in the near future. However, I do say that allowing them to be taken in the first place shows a certain lack of ... decorum. And extremely poor judgement. Sometimes what you think is "fun" and "private" in the moment can come back to bite you in the proverbial behind.
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    Re: Bachelor 14 Jake Pavelka **Sleuthing** SPOILERS**

    Quote Originally Posted by jelle;3817728;
    OK sdl my friend
    Now we have a callendar shoot, pre-show boyfriend pics, and one boobie shot. Tell me was it really Hustler porno stuff? and then I'll shut up!

    $12,500 sight unseen Wonder if he really thought you would bite - amazing
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    The photo I saw was typical Playboy material, probably not Hustler level (although I'm not sure I really know the difference.)
    It was a naked girl, Vienna. Topless on a beach with one leg crossed over the other.
    I've been offered more than $12,500, repeatedly, to make the deal but I don't want the money, don't need it, have no interest in it, and am sorry I ever brought it up.
    Someone will buy them and we will move on. I personally think that Ed's conduct was worse but there were no pictures (actually there was one with him and a girl hugging at a wedding during his "break" from the show, but we soon forget).
    The deal with Vienna, if you get right down to it, is not one thing. We all make mistakes. The deal with Vienna is a long resume of mistakes that call into question her breeding and character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dodie430;3817737;
    I can't speak for everyone else, but I don't think Vienna "deserves" having the pics made public at all - and I kind of feel bad for her that they will likely become very public in the near future. However, I do say that allowing them to be taken in the first place shows a certain lack of ... decorum. And extremely poor judgement. Sometimes what you think is "fun" and "private" in the moment can come back to bite you in the proverbial behind.
    Your right... these photos WILL come out... it's only a matter of time. Until they do, I will reserve judgement. It will be very obvious if they are professional in nature, or meant to be a private/playful (albeit lacking the maturity to know better) day at the beach with a personal friend. If they appear professional in nature, then I dont think we can feel "Bad" for Vienna for purposefully taking the photos in hopes of others seeing them. (Why else would you get this type of photo done professionally- and yes... I know there are instances where women take provocative photos for their significant other and are professionally done, however I have never heard of these being done on the beach!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdl;3817742;
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    The photo I saw was typical Playboy material, probably not Hustler level (although I'm not sure I really know the difference.)
    It was a naked girl, Vienna. Topless on a beach with one leg crossed over the other.
    I've been offered more than $12,500, repeatedly, to make the deal but I don't want the money, don't need it, have no interest in it, and am sorry I ever brought it up.
    Someone will buy them and we will move on. I personally think that Ed's conduct was worse but there were no pictures (actually there was one with him and a girl hugging at a wedding during his "break" from the show, but we soon forget).
    The deal with Vienna, if you get right down to it, is not one thing. We all make mistakes. The deal with Vienna is a long resume of mistakes that call into question her breeding and character.
    BREEDING?!?!?!? That IS a bit much and has nothing to do with this whole thing............... Character - yes I agree
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    BREEDING?!?!?!? That IS a bit much and has nothing to do with this whole thing............... Character - yes I agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by addictedtwinmom;3817743;
    Your right... these photos WILL come out... it's only a matter of time. Until they do, I will reserve judgement. It will be very obvious if they are professional in nature, or meant to be a private/playful (albeit lacking the maturity to know better) day at the beach with a personal friend. If they appear professional in nature, then I dont think we can feel "Bad" for Vienna for purposefully taking the photos in hopes of others seeing them. (Why else would you get this type of photo done professionally- and yes... I know there are instances where women take provocative photos for their significant other and are professionally done, however I have never heard of these being done on the beach!)
    See that's the thing that bugs me about this whole thing. My 13 year old daughter has more common sense. You don't have to be mature, just have some common sense. I cannot for a second believe that she was completely ignorant of the risks. I feel bad for the implications, and don't think she deserves it, and hope she learns from it. But I don't think it should be excused on the basis of maturity or lack thereof. Personal responsibility is sorely lacking in young people today imo.
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