Thread: Bachelor 14 Jake Pavelka **Sleuthing** SPOILERS**

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    Re: Bachelor 14 Jake Pavelka **Sleuthing** SPOILERS**

    Quote Originally Posted by sdl;3814107;
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    So if a person who happens to belong to his church sent in a nomination form, then he was nominated by his "Church."
    I was recommended by a legislator friend for service on a police governing board, which I guess means I was selected by the entire State of Texas.
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    You crack me up! I had not read any of the boards on Jake for a couple of days (nothing new, so why bother), but I come back and now we have a whole different Jake. Exciting! Maybe Vienna and Jake do deserve each other.
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    Re: Bachelor 14 Jake Pavelka **Sleuthing** SPOILERS**

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexxxx;3814110;
    I think the trolley ride and the Coit Tower are one date -- with Tenley. Sometimes the date descriptions are wrong.

    Then Corrie has the 1:1 on Golden Gate Park and dinner at the Science Academy.

    Vienna/Gia are at the castle/winery.

    On the day of the RC, Jake spends the day with Ali in San Fran.

    That makes three 1:1 dates, and one double. I'm not sure of the order, though.
    Ok, Thanks- I'll buy that and I think the order is correct too. I'm tossing around my order of the roses that Jake gives out- 1st - I had Tenley, Gia, Vienna & Ali. Then I changed to Tenley, Ali, Vienna & Gia. Knowing that Ali gets the last date and Jake talks with her about Vienna - maybe Ali will be picked last- I'm so

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    Quote Originally Posted by pajamasam;3813991;
    I think that's a myth or at least an exaggeration.
    What's good for the goose is good for the gander! The producers routinely create characters that it appears the majority of people gullibly believe. Jake may have just created a characted for himself and "sold" it to the producers -the perfect nice guy who can't get a second date and who is nominated by his church.

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    Somebody help me understand.....why would his church be nominating him and saying he is so Godly, IF he has lived with one woman for 5 years and bought a house and lived with another woman for 2 years? Unless I misunderstood the earlier post with that information about live in, long-time girlfriends. Am I wrong about those 2 relationships?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdl;3814052;
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    First of all, you guys crack me up. So entertaining to read your comments.
    Secondly, I was totally sucked into the Jake edit and I'm a little peeved that his true history seems to be 180 degrees from what has been portrayedThis brings me back to some things I was told ages ago, and had kind of let go...about Jake not being the guy we see, the "horniest Bachelor," difficult and arrogant, etc. I guess time will tell.
    Third, I'm not really familiar with the process, but can a "church" nominate someone to be TB? How does that work? Doesn't the guy have to present his own credentials? I'm very suspect of the church nomination story. Flygirl, who seems to know a lot of details, says it is utter nonsense.
    Finally, if I get one more email about Vienna's "porn" videos...taken by her boyfriend and offered for sale, I'm going to give up and just accept it as true. I've already seen a topless still (not the one with a scarf) so is the step to video hard to imagine?
    What an insane season.
    I couldn't agree more! "Peeved" is the perfect word for this whole season! Now I feel that we, the viewers, are being manipulated by not only Fleiss, but by Jake too!

    * I had heard early on that "a group" from his church got together because they wanted to see a "wholesome" Bachelor instead of the ones they'd been seeing (although I think Andy was a nice guy, and I have no problem with some of the others too). Didn't these guys watch The Farmer Takes a Wife? Now that was a "wholesome" bachelor, who courted a "vixen" among the "wholesome" girls!! Now, thanks to other posters, I know that whole nomination thing was all just a cover story for the season!

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    Re: Bachelor 14 Jake Pavelka **Sleuthing** SPOILERS**

    Quote Originally Posted by debt2dreams;3814124;
    Somebody help me understand.....why would his church be nominating him and saying he is so Godly, IF he has lived with one woman for 5 years and bought a house and lived with another woman for 2 years? Unless I misunderstood the earlier post with that information about live in, long-time girlfriends. Am I wrong about those 2 relationships?
    His church didn't nominate him. Otherwise, wouldn't we have heard something from them saying that they did and why?

    Secondly, it's now changed to a friend that went to his church nominated Jake. Now, how often Jake goes to that friend's church or if he attends it any longer is anyone's guess. Heck, we don't even get to meet any of his friends. We really don't know but what the show wants us to know.

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    Re: Bachelor 14 Jake Pavelka **Sleuthing** SPOILERS**

    Quote Originally Posted by Beachmom;3814125;
    I couldn't agree more! "Peeved" is the perfect word for this whole season! Now I feel that we, the viewers, are being manipulated by not only Fleiss, but by Jake too!

    * I had heard early on that "a group" from his church got together because they wanted to see a "wholesome" Bachelor instead of the ones they'd been seeing (although I think Andy was a nice guy, and I have no problem with some of the others too). Didn't these guys watch The Farmer Takes a Wife? Now that was a "wholesome" bachelor, who courted a "vixen" among the "wholesome" girls!! Now, thanks to other posters, I know that whole nomination thing was all just a cover story for the season!
    It appears to me that we have been taken. However, out of everybody out there, it should surprise US least of all to find all of this garbage out. After all, for years we have been digging for facts, whatever they are to get to the end of the journey that's been presented to us.
    Granted, it has gotten much worse in the last seasons, but this idea is not really new.

    I would have loved to have been on this board, but I had not discovered it yet, so I was sleuthing somewhere else during Byron's season - way back when. He was Bach 6. All kinds of rubbish about a pole dancer name Gwen, her ex, all the ex's friends, her daughter and a pink fishing pole came out in addition to some pictures ( right up to the time Byron starred in the Bach role) of him in a bubble bathtub with the dancer. What came out and the unmonitored posts(where I was) were extremely ugly.

    I am just saying that stuff has been out there all along, and the sleuthers have been discovering it right on along as well. It is just getting worse.

    So we miscalculated.

    Keeping in mind we have to go with the edit they give us, we can, however, begin now to see how the "real" Jake might select Vienna just as we came to see how the "real" Jillian (as opposed to the edited Jillian of both seasons) chose to pick Ed over the other contenders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojo47;3813937;
    I don't know about that; I just have such a hard time visualizing her saying no to Jake. She has been all about the ring, marriage, getting to be F1 that I just can't see her saying no to the glory of a proposal. What I could see is her accepting the proposal and ending it as soon as she possibly could post-show.
    Would she say yes if he just wants to date and not ask for marriage?

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    Re: Bachelor 14 Jake Pavelka **Sleuthing** SPOILERS**

    Quote Originally Posted by one71721;3813962;
    Actually he said that he didn't get 2nd dates because he was too intense on the first date..it was during his interview at his house.
    Maybe High School or College dating?

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    Re: Bachelor 14 Jake Pavelka **Sleuthing** SPOILERS**

    Quote Originally Posted by anders332;3813984;
    Ali has never had to wait long for a rose, so that's why I put her last, especially because of the Vienna controversy.

    We may get shocked and he picks Vienna first. Tenley has had 2 safe roses (FIR and last week), Gia, Ali and Vienna have all had 1 safe rose. I dont' know if this plays into the order. I know they mix it up for best dramatic affect, and Ali getting the rose after Vienna gets my vote and Gia and Tenley being safe first would almost be a given. I think every viewer knows that Corrie will be leaving when she drops the bombshell that she's a virgin.
    Ali gets the first rose-a front runner. Then next week kaboom she I'd gone- "oh no. How did that happen?"

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