Bachelor 14 Jake Pavelka **Sleuthing** SPOILERS**

[Cornfritter]

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First of all, you guys crack me up. So entertaining to read your comments.
Secondly, I was totally sucked into the Jake edit and I'm a little peeved that his true history seems to be 180 degrees from what has been portrayed
This brings me back to some things I was told ages ago, and had kind of let go...about Jake not being the guy we see, the "horniest Bachelor," difficult and arrogant, etc. I guess time will tell.
Third, I'm not really familiar with the process, but can a "church" nominate someone to be TB? How does that work? Doesn't the guy have to present his own credentials? I'm very suspect of the church nomination story. Flygirl, who seems to know a lot of details, says it is utter nonsense.
Finally, if I get one more email about Vienna's "porn" videos...taken by her boyfriend and offered for sale, I'm going to give up and just accept it as true. I've already seen a topless still (not the one with a scarf) so is the step to video hard to imagine?
What an insane season.

Can Vienna, sue her ex-boyfriend for trying to sell the photos with out her consent?

[anders332]

Not according to Judge Judy. As long as their not used to advertize or promote they are fair game.

[Capegal]

Can Vienna, sue her ex-boyfriend for trying to sell the photos with out her consent?

Who said it was the ex b/f?!?

[Tiggerlgh]

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Finally, if I get one more email about Vienna's "porn" videos...taken by her boyfriend and offered for sale, I'm going to give up and just accept it as true. I've already seen a topless still (not the one with a scarf) so is the step to video hard to imagine?
What an insane season.

I see this kind of "porn" if it was taken while in a relationship A LOT differently and much more private than someone creating a video with the INTENT to try to sell a video. If this video is from an ex I feel really bad for Vienna.

[Shoesies]

I see this kind of "porn" if it was taken while in a relationship A LOT differently and much more private than someone creating a video with the INTENT to try to sell a video. If this video is from an ex I feel really bad for Vienna.

IMO it would depend on the acts shown and the number of participants.

[Justabachfan]

ok, maybe this is not the right thread but just read a detailed description about tonight's episode- ETonline talks about 3 1:1 dates- The trolley ride w/Tenley- Coit tower is listed as a separate date- who is on that one? Ali?- then the golden state park one w/Corrie and then the 2:1 w/ Gia and Vienna. The one I didn't know about was the day of the RC one girl spends the day with Jake and he confronts her with some troubling issues while the other girls think it's an unfair advantage- Is this Ali again and they talk about Vienna?

[sdl]

Most likely it was someone from his church who did the nomination - but I'm sure he encouraged them to do it

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So if a person who happens to belong to his church sent in a nomination form, then he was nominated by his "Church."
I was recommended by a legislator friend for service on a police governing board, which I guess means I was selected by the entire State of Texas.
That's cool.

[Alexxxx]

ok, maybe this is not the right thread but just read a detailed description about tonight's episode- ETonline talks about 3 1:1 dates- The trolley ride w/Tenley- Coit tower is listed as a separate date- who is on that one? Ali?- then the golden state park one w/Corrie and then the 2:1 w/ Gia and Vienna. The one I didn't know about was the day of the RC one girl spends the day with Jake and he confronts her with some troubling issues while the other girls think it's an unfair advantage- Is this Ali again and they talk about Vienna?

I think the trolley ride and the Coit Tower are one date -- with Tenley. Sometimes the date descriptions are wrong.

Then Corrie has the 1:1 on Golden Gate Park and dinner at the Science Academy.

Vienna/Gia are at the castle/winery.

On the day of the RC, Jake spends the day with Ali in San Fran.

That makes three 1:1 dates, and one double. I'm not sure of the order, though.

[NorthernLights]

Maybe this doesn’t belong here – but here goes…So our current bachelor picks the unlikeliest of ‘contestants’ – Vienna (sometimes referred to as Vienna sausage.)
According to the ‘sleuthers’ and others, this is the week he cuts Corrie, the token virgin of the season. I kinda take it to mean that, (unlike the TV series, Star-Trek), Jake will not ‘boldly go where no man has gone before’.
Jake is such a contradiction. He’s all over the map, with regards to what kind of woman he wants in his life. He claims that his priorities are: God, Family, Friends. So, if he puts God first, wouldn’t it follow that he would look for a woman who is like-minded? If Vienna is, I sure haven’t seen it. What I have observed is a woman who is an attention seeker, (nude posing for calendars, etc. and whose role model seems to be Paris Hilton, whose sex video was paraded for all to see, and now, allegedly there is one of Vienna someone is trying to sell) self-absorbed and shows little respect for what others have given her – (5 cars wrecked – money taken from her husband to buy a boob job, to name a few). She’s now being labeled a ‘vixen’ by ABC – (vixens are female foxes, who have a reputation as ‘sly’ – ‘sneaky’ ). The other ladies in the house are at odds with her – or so we’ve been told – and many viewers are screaming madly at the TV – SHOW US why she’s so horrible. Maybe, just maybe, they really can’t because they know Jake chooses her – and so they have to come up with a reason why – and its kinda like: they show who she is – (the downside, so to speak) – but by gosh and by golly, Jake fell in love with her so now they will just soften her up for the last few episodes, and voila!! By FRC time everyone will be sooooo in love with her too, and will be absolutely convinced that bad press or no, she’s exactly who he should have in his life. Brilliant. Bad girl gets redeemed….
As romance novels go, this one is definitely at the bottom of my scale – Poor Jake. All he wanted was to be loved!!

[Alexxxx]

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So if a person who happens to belong to his church sent in a nomination form, then he was nominated by his "Church."
I was recommended by a legislator friend for service on a police governing board, which I guess means I was selected by the entire State of Texas.
That's cool.

My heartiest congratulations, sdl, LOL. Where do I go to vote you in? Or is it a done deal? ROFL

I don't believe the church nomination story either. fly.girl's story sounded pretty credible to me -- I think Jake applied, waited one year, did his audition on the B'ette w/Jillian, and then kissed up enough finally (and others declined the offer) to land the job.