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Old 02-11-2009, 03:32 AM   #1
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Update -- As of 02/15/09

Thought this might be a little bit easier than trying to go through hundreds of posts. Or maybe not. Can't hurt right?

So this is what we have to date:

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Episode 7: 2/16/09
3/2 cut
Fantasy Dates - South New Zealand (Queenstown area)
Botanical Gardens boat ride/Sightseeing & Onsen Spa - Matakauri Lodge: (Melissa)
Bungee jumping & White Bath Tub - Kohara: (Molly)
Helicopter Ride, Picnic & Spa - Stoneridge: (Jillian)

Stays: Molly & Melissa

Cut: Jillian
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Per Reality Steve:

The K Moon/Rebecca clue:
  • no biblical references whatsoever
  • Its got nothing to do with books, Stephanie Moon, Kristin Moon, romance novels, werewolves, literary writings, etc
  • Has nothing to do with song lyrics
  • Has nothing to do with Rebecca Budig, Bob Guiney, K Moon Photography, or Jason’s ex-wife.
  • We need to focus on the backslash between KMoon/Rebecca. The backslash represents separation
  • Has nothing to do with religion
  • Clues are related to the Bachelor, he's just giving them in the "Lost" theme
  • He doesn't think the finale will be changed by ABC
  • We need to stop with the anagram stuff
  • There's no mole, plant or spy
  • Says we are going to say "Wow...didn't see that coming"
  • whoever edited the sc's at the beginning of the season knew EXACTLY what they were doing. He says they’re good

Newest Clue as of 2/10/09:

2/3
Montreal
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Chris Harrison says the girl he ends up with is gonna work. That he likes the decision he made and the guts he had to do it.

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2/11/09

Per Bloomer:

Regardless of how crazy it may or may not get, regardless of whether Jillian somehow or the other comes back (that would be a twist), I have been informed that Molly does meet the family.
In asking about some other things from a source, that one nugget came up. I don't know anymore.

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2/13/09:

Reality Steve confirmed 02/12/09 that is clue:
K. Moon/Rebecca means the following.

K. Moon = Keith Moon member of 'The Who"
Rebecca = Rebecca Howe of Cheers fame.

He confirmed "this season is not about WHO he chooses, but the HOW behind it all.

So Clue #1 - “It’s not about the who, but the how.”

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Press release to the ATFR ceremony

ABC extends 'Bachelor' party with special

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ABC extends 'Bachelor' party with special Hourlong episode to follow reality series' 'shocking' finaleBy James Hibberd
Feb 12, 2009, 12:00 AM ET

"The Bachelor"

"Bachelor" fans, get ready for more drama.

With the relationship series blazing in the ratings for ABC this season, the network has ordered a one-hour special to air the day after the finale.

The events in the show's regular three-hour conclusion are dramatic enough to warrant an additional hour, creator Mike Fleiss said.

"It's going to be shocking," Fleiss said. "The end of this series is the best we've every had."

"Bachelor" normally airs a one-hour reunion special called "After the Final Rose." Last year, the reunion actually drew a bigger rating than the finale itself, an unusual occurrence in the reality universe.

On March 3, ABC will air the tentatively titled "After the Final Rose: Part 2," including additional interviews with bachelor Jason Mesnick, the woman he chose and the woman he didn't pick.

Now in its 13th edition, Fleiss and Warner Horizon's "The Bachelor" is defying ratings gravity by growing its numbers nearly every episode. Season-to-date, "The Bachelor" is averaging 10.1 million viewers and a 3.7 rating among adults 18-49. That's up 28% in the adult demo compared with the same point last year; the show also is drawing its largest audience in nearly five years.

Fans have responded to Mesnick and his young son, and having a single dad as the bachelor has brought new elements to the show's narrative. Although not officially renewed, Fleiss is confident "Bachelor" will return and is working on its creative for next year.

"I can't think of more than a handful of shows that have reversed a downward ratings trend like we have," Fleiss said.

And given Mesnick's popularity, Fleiss didn't rule out the possibility of viewers seeing him again.

"Maybe we'll do a wedding special," Fleiss said. "The couple seems pretty happy."

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The Bachelor finds love in New Zealand > New Zealand

The Bachelor finds love in New Zealand

Jason Mesnick and his final three women take the trip of a lifetime to romantic Queenstown, New Zealand, as Jason’s search for true love continues on the ABC show The Bachelor. On his quest for happiness, Jason also fell in love with New Zealand.


"I’ve done a lot of traveling in my life, but New Zealand is by far the most beautiful place I’ve ever been." Jason tells TV Guide.com.

Queenstown is the romantic setting for Jason on his three one-on-one dates in Episode Seven. Located on the shores of Lake Wakatipu, overlooked by the majestic Southern Alps, Queenstown offers an environment to relax and rejuvenate, try your hand with a gold pan or a fishing rod. A wine trail will discover award winning wines from the world's most southern vineyards. Visitors can enjoy long walks through the beautiful scenery, go on a four-wheel drive trek, or lunch on a majestic steamboat.

For his first one-on-one date, Jason and his date took a helicopter ride over Lake Wakatipu to a scenic ledge, for an intimate picnic with stunning views. They then dined at the picturesque Stoneridge Estate, an atmospheric mountain lodge constructed with recycled materials including beams from an old church. As well as three beautifully furnished guest rooms at Stoneridge Lodge, Stoneridge Estate also offers a private holiday cottage, complete with cosy open fire and outdoor hot tub adjacent.

Adventure was the focus of the second outing when Jason took his date to the world’s first commercial bungy, the AJ Hackett bungy at Kawerau Bridge. This bungy has been in operation for 20 years and is one of the most popular spots to bungy jump in New Zealand. Jason and his date bravely bungy jumped tandem style, clinging to each other during the jump. The excitement of the bungy was followed by a stress-relieving glass of local wine, and dinner at Kohara Lodge overlooking the mighty Shotover River. Kohara Lodge is an award winning stand alone house set into the hillside, just a few minutes drive from central Queenstown at picturesque Arthurs Point. Facilities include a cosy fireplace, outdoor lap pool with heated hot tub, alfresco terrace area with open fire, and putting green.

After experiencing the adrenaline rush of bungy jumping, Jason chose something more relaxing for his third one-on-one date. Jason and his date took a luxurious outing onboard Queenstown classic sailing ship, Yvalda, sailing into the sunset. The twosome then had a romantic dinner at Tatler Restaurant & Bar in central Queenstown, a local favorite. The restaurant features innovative cuisine made from locally-sourced organic ingredients, which the couple enjoyed next to a roaring fire.

Queenstown may be known for adventure activities such as bungy jumping, the Canyon Swing, white water rafting, jet boating and hang gliding; but also offers many other options for visitors. Visit award winning vineyards such as Amisfield, shop in the chic downtown Queenstown area and visit a glacier. There are many restaurants for whatever you are in the mood for; for casual dining, visit Winnebagos and for a five course meal, dine at Inspire at the Spire hotel.

Just twenty minutes out of Queenstown is the historic gold-mining settlement, Arrowtown. Arrowtown is also becoming widely renowned for its café and restaurant culture. For some great dining experiences visit Saffron, Pesto or the Postmaster’s House. Walk through the main street and visit the preserved stores, the Lakes District Museum, and the Chinese Gold Miners’ village.

Be sure to watch Episode Seven of The Bachelor, 8pm / 7pm CST, February 16th on ABC, to see which woman Jason chooses and what adventures he pursues in New Zealand.

Experience what Jason and his dates did in Queenstown!

Date One
• Picnic over Lake Wakatipu with the Helicopter Line
• Dinner and stay at Stoneridge Estate

Date Two
• Tandem bungy at the Kawerau Bridge Bungy
• Dinner and stay at Kohara Lodge overlooking the Shotover River

Date Three
• Romantic sail onboard Queenstown classic sailing ship Yvalda
• Dinner at Tatler Restaurant & Bar
• Stay at exclusive Matakauri Lodge

The Bachelor crew stayed at the Heritage Queenstown
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RS Updates:

Kmoon/Rebecca = The Who/Rebecca Howe (from Cheers)

It’s not about WHO he chooses, but the HOW behind it all.

Every clue has something to do with the structure of how the finale will be presented.

He tells us to get beyond the pinky rings, freckles, and dresses. Move on to “2/3″ and “Montreal”
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Viewers will get an extra hour of bachelorhood this season — ABC says The Bachelor's three-hour conclusion is dramatic enough to merit an extra hour-long special the night after it airs.

"The Bachelor: After the Final Rose, Part 2" will air at 10 pm/ET on Tuesday, March 3, the night after the show's 13th season finale and the one-hour "After the Final Rose, Part 1."

Judging from the show's ratings, the best in years, audiences can handle an extra hour of Jason Mesnick, the single father trying to choose between Jillian, Molly, and Melissa, the three remaining contestants.

DeAnna Pappas, who rejected Jason on The Bachelorette, fits in there somehow too. Previews have shown her visiting Jason in New Zealand, the setting for the two remaining episodes, to say she's made a mistake. Clever editing, or is she hoping for a second chance?

ABC says the next episode will feature Jillian and Molly revealing their true feelings to Jason, and Jason expressing doubts about Melissa. Each of the ladies gets an invitation to Jason's "fantasy suite," two get roses, and one goes home in tears.
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UPDATES FROM OUR CURRENT POSTS SO FAR:

November 30 - December 1st: Melissa logged into then deleted her MySpace

December 3: Melissa's first day back to work - SOURCE:

December 3: Actual date of a Jason interview - ..gushy interview about being engaged, in love, on top of the world, happiest man alive, "King of the World." (aired in January) - SOURCE:

January 1-12: Molly in L.A. - SOURCE:

January 8: Ellen show tapes in LA; he's in studio 1/8 for show aired 1/9

January 9: Jason in LA to tape Kimmel, airs late night that night

January 12: Bonnie Hunt -- Jason in studio in LA (tapes 1/8 or 19)

-- Kidd Kraddick radio interview (Jason still in LA?? Studio to record is in Dallas TEX)

January 7-9: Jason says they are not talking wedding plans. (last printed interview) - SOURCE:

Jan 5-12: Jason does round of interviews with media. Interesting "glitches"

on Kimmel, Ellen, and Bonnie Hunt - SOURCE:

January 12: Last verbal interview - SOURCE:

January 14: Jason's interview actually printed in the Kirkland Review (actually took place the previous week.) - SOURCE:

January 16: Molly's first day back to work - SOURCE:

January 27: RS releases bombshell announcement

January 28 -- filming of Where are they now segments in LA (featuring people from a variety of past seasons, not Jason & Co., to be clear)

January 30: Jason having business lunch Hotel Monaco in Seattle - SOURCE:

February 12: Fleiss added additional AFTR show

February 13: Shannon indicated the WTA taped - SOURCE: Shannon's MySpace (and per cupcakes find on the school auction website)
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