Reality Steve discussion only **Spoilers**

[2observe]

maybe there is another twist. look how many posts are on this board, fleiss is loving this. i think there could be another shocker. mel and mol were plants. mel just seemed so fake and with the parent thing and all. mol just does not seem genuine and the thing with her parents (hats and calling her mother by her first name) I think this is what fleiss wanted the sleuthers to chat away when this was exposed. who is RS's informant and how do we know this is REALLY how it goes. I think there is more to it, the one he really fell in love with will be proposed to on the show, not mol. I mean why show that he has a connection with Jill, I thought they had one. and the hot tub scene. Jill is not in on this. this is all IMO. what do yous think

But I saw Jason ask Molly at the "meet and greet" if she would be willing to move to Seattle, so that was definitely some strong connection there from the very beginning. Also, RS said that everyone KNEW early on that Molly was the one (rose petals in bath and bed, private house.) Imo, Molly was always getting the Jesse F1 edit, until the FD; so, that's probably when they started to change the edits toward Melissa being F1.

[Luvvy]

I don't get wedding vibes from the expression "the new lady in my life."

Could you imagine being her and watching this show?!

[sdl]

SDL,
One of the things RS didn't know is if the ATFR Part 2 has been taped yet and if Jason actually proposes to Molly before or after that taping. Do you know?

*******
I don't know for sure.
For 2-3 weeks, ending a couple of weeks ago, I wore myself out calling and bugging people who were in a position to know. I got the information I wanted, and then took a break - it wasn't normal or healthy to stay on it and there was no longer any point.
I don't like to post opinions because there are too many on this board already, but I'll tell you that my opinion is that the ATFR2 has already been filmed, or else MF and CH wouldn't be hyping it so much. They must know what's in the can, and couldn't be so sure of what we're going to see (especially in this ever changing landscape) if they hadn't already seen it.

[ducky2]

We don't know that Jason didn't tell her pre-ATFR, only that Fleiss asked him to 'save' it for the ATFR.

The email said she had an inkling, whose to say it wasn't more than that? She could have known and Jason could have told her.

I agree, but it's starting to sound like she didn't know. And if Melissa only had an "inkling" that's not enough in my opinion. My hope is that she was the first to know that he wanted to see Molly. That would be the only respectful and decent thing for Jason to do in this situation especially if he cared of her at all.

[cinders83]

Her parents seem smart enough to steer her away from this joke of a show.

I hope so because maybe they'll do the opposite with her in control she can finally be the dumper. They may see it differently I actually hope she is with another guy right now and it lasts long enough that the producers have to get another girl for the bachelorette.

[admriker]

Where are these supposed emails from Melissa? Does anyone have a link????

thats what ive been asking and trying to find out as well.

again, can someone either post the summary of these emails [edit]

[Luvvy]

No one has any proof that this was setup from Day 1. That Jason and Fleiss planned it, somehow got Molly in on it. We know that he was strongly attracted/connected to Molly, but we don't know that Fleiss made him choose Mel. Someone posted that seeing Ty and Mel is what made him choose her, even though his heart was some place else. Do we just chop that up as a rumor and nothing else?

[anders332]

I don't get wedding vibes from the expression "the new lady in my life."

there won't be a wedding - the whole season was a farce.......

[nonobadfish]

*******
I don't know for sure.
For 2-3 weeks, ending a couple of weeks ago, I wore myself out calling and bugging people who were in a position to know. I got the information I wanted, and then took a break - it wasn't normal or healthy to stay on it and there was no longer any point.
I don't like to post opinions because there are too many on this board already, but I'll tell you that my opinion is that the ATFR2 has already been filmed, or else MF and CH wouldn't be hyping it so much. They must know what's in the can, and couldn't be so sure of what we're going to see (especially in this ever changing landscape) if they hadn't already seen it.

Thanks...that makes perfect sense. They are experts in this hype business.

[BritLit]

Final and Irrefutable Proof:
of Jason's role as Fleiss's zombie. Just watch the AATFR. If there's a proposal to Molly and the ring is your usual multi-carat Tacori or Fred Leighton, it was ABC's show all the way. If it's a quarter-carat Walmart special, maybe Jason actually bought it himself and maybe I'll cut him some slack. OK, not very much, cause his actions prove he's a jerk, but at least engender some doubt in my cynical mind that maybe he had some feelings for Molly.